Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries Medically Cleared [signed by Chiefs]

[SHOWTIME]

Does Veach give him a call?

I predict @Chiefs. Makes too much sense https://t.co/hu5xdI5KF2

— Justin Pugh (@JustinPugh) November 22, 2024

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by cl.brooklyn

If you were gonna mortgage draft picks to move up, last year was the year to do it for Joe Alt. Generational player, second generation Chief.

We had the first overall pick and took the best LT in the draft when we got Fisher and even he needed a few years to become a serviceable too 3rd tackle in the league at best. Very few sure things out there but Alt was certainly looking as close to that as possible and his on field performance supported it.

Is he still injured or will we play him on Sunday?


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Alt went #5 overall. There was almost zero chance that the top 3 teams in the draft would have traded out of that spot with KC. The earliest KC could have theoretically moved up to was #4, but with the needs this team had at WR they would not have taken Alt over Harrison Jr.. I highly doubt the LAC with Harbaugh would want to move back to #32 so that KC could draft the best LT in the draft. Sadly Alt to KC was never going to happen.

[chiefzilla1501]

I haven’t given up on Kingsley. He badly needs reps but right now probably not fixable this season. It feels like a lot of his issues are related to communication and with that a complete lack of confidence. One of the biggest disservices this league has done is limit practice time for rookies to adapt to the nfl. Still, if humphries looks even remotely healthy, we need to figure out how we keep him.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by -King-

Karlaftis can win with power but winning with power takes longer than with speed or with pass rush moves. That's why we need a guy on the opposite side that can funnel guys to his direction.

I still think we need to stop putting Jones at DE on 3rd downs. 3rd and long? Sure - that's fine. But these 3rd and 5 or 6 situations where Jones is putting himself out wide only to have the QB unload at the back of his drop is just wasting him.

And I really do wonder if he's doing some of that on his own. I'm sure he's been given runway to make that decision but when he bumped Uche inside so he and Omenihu could play DE on the ONE play that Uche had last week, that really made me take pause.

There's just no way they sent an alignment out there that had Uche rushing from the inside. And there wasn't a stunt called or anything, it was just a straight rush rep and Jones moved Uche over a gap so he could play DE.

It didn't make any sense but nobody is going to tell Jones he's wrong in that situation.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by RunKC

They desperately need more athleticism at edge. It just feels like those guys provide something due to their athleticism. Dee Ford would get sacks just from speed alone. That guy affected plays.

It feels like Karlaftis and Felix have to try so hard bc they won’t just blow by guys and beat them with athleticism.

And I think Uche is an acknowledgement that that was missing. I hope we keep Uche at a fair deal next year or find someone early in the draft that fits that mold bc man we just don’t have the juice other edge unless Uche is out there

I wonder if BJ Thompson is looked at as that guy as well?

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I haven’t given up on Kingsley. He badly needs reps but right now probably not fixable this season. It feels like a lot of his issues are related to communication and with that a complete lack of confidence. One of the biggest disservices this league has done is limit practice time for rookies to adapt to the nfl. Still, if humphries looks even remotely healthy, we need to figure out how we keep him.

I think Kingsley could be an all pro guard. He is extremely athletic moving forward and side to side. But really struggles to back pedal out kick step. I’m not sure he will get much better with that at this point as it is something he has done for years now. But at guard it will play more to his strengths. At with his size and length he would be really good. He also has 29 reps on the bench showing good functional strength. Have him replace Smith at RG next year. It’s not a big deal. Dallas did it with their first round tackle. The eagles brought Becton in to play RG too.

I think either Kingsley or Morris could replace Trey this year then Thuney next year. By that time Norgrad and Hanson make competent back up interior players. Maybe Driscoll develops to take RT? Humphries locks down LT?

[golfindude]

Originally Posted by VAChief

I think the Chiefs brought in Kingsley as a 6th lineman on a short yardage play and Buffalo used that strategy to run yesterday against the 49ers on some running plays.

Why not (even if Humphries works out ok at LT) run some empty backfield six lineman in passing situations? Put Kingsley on the right side next to Taylor (keeping Taylor at the LOS instead of false starting). You could have some combination of Kelce, Hopkins, Worthy, Gray, Watson, Ju Ju, Mecole or Brown when he comes back as the 4 receivers.

You could also run Pacheco in the backfield on early downs, and play action out of that occasionally. Seems like a way to get Kingsley some reps without being alone on an island.

This makes so much sense. Pat doesn't have time to go thru his progressions anyway . Worthy deep should open up the middle somewhat. I should have been a coach. LoL

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Palangi

I think Kingsley could be an all pro guard. He is extremely athletic moving forward and side to side. But really struggles to back pedal out kick step. I’m not sure he will get much better with that at this point as it is something he has done for years now. But at guard it will play more to his strengths. At with his size and length he would be really good. He also has 29 reps on the bench showing good functional strength. Have him replace Smith at RG next year. It’s not a big deal. Dallas did it with their first round tackle. The eagles brought Becton in to play RG too.

I think either Kingsley or Morris could replace Trey this year then Thuney next year. By that time Norgrad and Hanson make competent back up interior players. Maybe Driscoll develops to take RT? Humphries locks down LT?

Not sure what everyone saw from Kingsley that makes them think he could play OG. His number one asset is his feet. He's built for space. If he's not a tackle going forward, he probably doesn't have a spot. He's just not built to play inside. Wanya, on the other hand...

[Sassy Squatch]

Disagree a bit. His propensity to overset his feet probably won't be nearly as detrimental on the inside if he can't fix that issue.

[xztop123]

Spags drafts big guys to set the edge at de. They will have 1 rotational athletic de

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Disagree a bit. His propensity to overset his feet probably won't be nearly as detrimental on the inside if he can't fix that issue.

He doesn't appear to have the lead in his ass needed to play inside. Like I said, if he's not a tackle, he's probably done here. I just don't see him being a good guard. Center of gravity is too high.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Palangi

I think Kingsley could be an all pro guard. He is extremely athletic moving forward and side to side. But really struggles to back pedal out kick step. I’m not sure he will get much better with that at this point as it is something he has done for years now. But at guard it will play more to his strengths. At with his size and length he would be really good. He also has 29 reps on the bench showing good functional strength. Have him replace Smith at RG next year. It’s not a big deal. Dallas did it with their first round tackle. The eagles brought Becton in to play RG too.

I think either Kingsley or Morris could replace Trey this year then Thuney next year. By that time Norgrad and Hanson make competent back up interior players. Maybe Driscoll develops to take RT? Humphries locks down LT?

I mean no disrespect, but Kingsley might have some of the worst footwork I've seen from a NFL OL. I'm not sure that translates to OG either, and certainly not All Pro OG. In addition, I don't think he's got the lower base to be an great OG either. jmho

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not sure what everyone saw from Kingsley that makes them think he could play OG. His number one asset is his feet. He's built for space. If he's not a tackle going forward, he probably doesn't have a spot. He's just not built to play inside. Wanya, on the other hand...

He was not a good run blocker either. His calling card was pass pro.

But we have seen OT’s convert to G and have a lot of success. Mekhi Becton did this year in Philly and has been a huge success story this year.

That’s why I don’t want to pay Trey. RG is not some terribly difficult position to replace. I think Wanya could be fine there.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not sure what everyone saw from Kingsley that makes them think he could play OG. His number one asset is his feet. He's built for space. If he's not a tackle going forward, he probably doesn't have a spot. He's just not built to play inside. Wanya, on the other hand...

Agreed. I thought I remembered Veach saying when they drafted Kingsley, it would enable them to do a lot of the stuff they did with Fisher. I took that to mean, him being quick on his feet. And moved well in space. I don't think Guard is in his future. Of the two, I also think Wayna will have a better shot at Guard, if he can learn to run block better.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He was not a good run blocker either. His calling card was pass pro.

But we have seen OT’s convert to G and have a lot of success. Mekhi Becton did this year in Philly and has been a huge success story this year.

That’s why I don’t want to pay Trey. RG is not some terribly difficult position to replace. I think Wanya could be fine there.

What concerns me is that really, C ain't that hard to replace either.

I mean look at the Eagles. Cam Jurgens is...fine. 2nd round prospect, solid but unspectacular pedigree. He took over for a HoFer and they haven't missed a beat.

And yet the Chiefs threw $18 million/AAV at the position.

And they seemingly have NEVER put a ton of credibility into the whole 'positional value' calculus.

So I worry that despite the fact that RG is pretty easy to replace, they'll try to hard to retain Smith.

[PatMahomesIsGod]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I still think we need to stop putting Jones at DE on 3rd downs. 3rd and long? Sure - that's fine. But these 3rd and 5 or 6 situations where Jones is putting himself out wide only to have the QB unload at the back of his drop is just wasting him.

And I really do wonder if he's doing some of that on his own. I'm sure he's been given runway to make that decision but when he bumped Uche inside so he and Omenihu could play DE on the ONE play that Uche had last week, that really made me take pause.

There's just no way they sent an alignment out there that had Uche rushing from the inside. And there wasn't a stunt called or anything, it was just a straight rush rep and Jones moved Uche over a gap so he could play DE.

It didn't make any sense but nobody is going to tell Jones he's wrong in that situation.

Yes.

We had to reign that freelancing shit in a couple seasons ago too.