Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

[Wallcrawler]

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

The media bitching about Ravens not running the ball is ok I guess but Lamar is their big star and big paid guy so he should have the ball in his hands to go win it. He can't do it and is a choker.

Maybe that's why they did it. I guess sometimes the people serving the Koolaid drink it themselves.

[RealSNR]

Isn't Zay Flowers also another Wonderlic bottom feeder? Just like Lamar?

I swear this Ravens franchise must likes'em nice and dumb.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Isn't Zay Flowers also another Wonderlic bottom feeder? Just like Lamar?

I swear this Ravens franchise must likes'em nice and dumb.

In my search, I found this fun thread...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comm...you_shitbirds/

And some random person on the internet says he got a 13 as well.
https://www.broncosboard.com/node/239012

Wide Receivers

29 Josh Downs
25 Grant DuBose
23 Marvin Mims
20 Jonathan Mingo
19 Jalin Hyatt
14 Jaxon Smith-Njigba​
14 Dontayvion Wicks
13 Zay Flowers
10 Jayden Reed

[notorious]

We had (PAST TENSE) one of the dumbest mother ****ers on the planet on our team in Toney.

I can't imagine having several Toney's on our team.

[frozenchief]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Despite all of this he could still be considered a HOF QB when it’s all said and done because of two MVPs. Fascinating to say the least.

Maybe. But HOF voters love those rings. There's also the 5 year rule: if a QB and head coach don't win a SB w/in the first 5 years of their tenure together, they don't win a SB.

Explained and analyzed here:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...f-not-winning/

Well, Lamar and Harbaugh have been together now for 5 years and haven't won a SB. Will they be the ones to break the rule? If not, who do you get rid of?

Lamar's performance so far demonstrates that he can win in the regular season provided Baltimore gets ahead first. But Lamar's performance in the playoffs has been poor, to say the least. And if they get behind by any substantial amount of points, Lamar doesn't have the skills as a passer to bring Baltimore back. I think this game showed Lamar doesn't have the mental toughness to get them back.

Contrast that to Mahomes. KC gets behind by 10+ points and Mahomes says, "So what? We can come back and win it." And they do. That is one reason Baltimore lost this game. They got down by a touchdown and you could just see Lamar start to worry. You could see him feeling like the game was slipping out of reach even though they were down by at first 7 and then 10 points.

[RunKC]

If I was the Ravens I would take a long look at Michael Penix Jr

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If I was the Ravens I would take a long look at Michael Penix Jr

They're basically in purgatory with 4.3 alex smith

[frozenchief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If I was the Ravens I would take a long look at Michael Penix Jr

Penix to me seems maddening. He's got a high ceiling but also a low floor. Penix would be a great candidate to draft and keep on the bench for a year or two to learn the game. Not many teams can afford to be patient, although the Ravens could. I don't know what that would do to Lamar's psyche, though, if Baltimore drafted him. And they have a pretty large chunk invested in him.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

They're basically in purgatory with 4.3 alex smith

Grunhard eviscerated Lamar Jackson on 810 yesterday. Talked about how he didn't change any plays or audible anything and got uncomfortable the moment the Chiefs went up 10 and made things hard for him

Everyone says it's racist but Lamar is not a smart QB and everyone knows it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Grunhard eviscerated Lamar Jackson on 810 yesterday. Talked about how he didn't change any plays or audible anything and got uncomfortable the moment the Chiefs went up 10 and made things hard for him

Everyone says it's racist but Lamar is not a smart QB and everyone knows it.

Lamar doesn't have to do that against 90% of his opponents.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Grunhard eviscerated Lamar Jackson on 810 yesterday. Talked about how he didn't change any plays or audible anything and got uncomfortable the moment the Chiefs went up 10 and made things hard for him

Everyone says it's racist but Lamar is not a smart QB and everyone knows it.

But but but what about his halftime speech against the Texans! Throw it short they blitzing us! That wasn't done again this week? I mean we spent over half the game blitzing his ass and he couldn't adjust?

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

In my search, I found this fun thread...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comm...you_shitbirds/

And some random person on the internet says he got a 13 as well.
https://www.broncosboard.com/node/239012

Are you saying he's not Quarterbacky enough?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Shields68

I think they always planed to pay him until he hits 30 and I doubt that has changed based upon this game. He is still one of those electric players that a team needs to game plan around. He does not take hardly any big hits and that quickness he will be fine until then. After this contract will be a question. Flowers is making him look a lot better as a thrower.

Though in fairness I do not think he played a terrible game. The under throw to Lively in triple coverage was the one glaring mistake. Spags out coached them. Gave them personnel packages and blitz's they were not used to seeing. That is for sure. But they had an oppurtunity. Patrick kept them off the field in the first half they did not establish a rythm. Never figured out if they could run the ball. They moved the football in the second half but a lot of stupid plays not all of which were done by Jackson.

It wasn't what he did - it was what he DIDN'T do.

He was just so indecisive back there. When he hits the back of his drop, he's gotta look to 1, then 2, then GO. He stayed on 1 too long and then if 2 wasnt there, he just kinda vapor locked.

He simply wasn't aggressive enough. He left a ton of yards on the field. The fumble was the most obvious example of him holding the ball too long instead of running with it, but there were several others.

Just get SOMETHING with your legs. Even if it's only 3-4 yards, it keeps you at the sticks and allows you to get the RBs more involved. Instead of trying to keep the ball moving and drives alive, he got indecisive in the pocket and kept waiting for coverage to break down. That's the wrong thing to do against this team.

He just kept throwing incomplete passes to covered guys (or overthrowing the uncovered ones) and it killed them.

He was terrible last weekend. Spags helped in that regard, but Jackson was simply bad.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Are you saying he's not Quarterbacky enough?

Only a subset of Ravens fans and Lamar Jackson would consider him a savant.

[Pablo]

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