****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Even in the preseason we said it. We can retire this thread. Everyone is in agreement the WRs are bottom tier.

I still dont think the Goof Troop believes it. They're still on "Its the same WR's as last year" kick.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

What part of our coaching staff makes you think they are capable of making this no brainer adjustments in season?

The fact Skyy is still getting snap % over ****ing James should be all the proof you need.

I’d like to see that but I’m not sure how much that solves our problem. I think easily our biggest issue right now is our WRs have very bad instincts to go where they need to go. Toney, James, hardman… I think all those guys carry the same baggage. So Reid just favors a guy like skyy who are willing blockers. Which is kind of amazing when you think about it that we have this many WRs in the room and yet they also seem to have the same instincts issue. And that feels way more about recruiting than it is about coaching

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by TEX

I still dont think the Goof Troop believes it. They're still on "Its the same WR's as last year" kick.

Your gripes need to be placed at Andy's feet bc he's the one who runs this show, not Nagy. Just like Clyde, he's peddling Skyy out there when the kid has made even more mistakes this year than last.

Andy needs to lower Sky's reps substantially and give them to Richie

[kgrund]

I know we have talked about this at length, but is is so dang frustrating to see how literally small MVS plays. On the non-call defensive pass interference, MVS know he has the defensive player behind him and can essentially box him out from having much of a play on the ball, if not all, by making himself big. Instead MVS essentially shrinks and allows the DB to become a bigger part of the play then he should have. A.J. Brown, Chase, etc. box the DB off and go up and snatch that ball. Just maddenning to see a big WR play soo small.

[emaw1979]

It's time to bench MVS and Sky Moore outside of emergencies. Incomplete routes (stopping) and bad routes are unforgivable at the rate these two are making, especially in critical moments.


Roll with Rice, James, Toney, and Watson. It's not going to light the world on fire, but I believe these four are better for the team for the rest of the season.

[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah. I have no earthly idea what Skyy Moore has done to earn the playing time he does but his presence has arguably cost us 3 games single-handedly. It's not a stretch to say he's the most detrimental WR in the league currently.

And for ****s sake, get Rice and Toney involved AS DOWNFIELD TARGETS. Holy ****, Rice just runs the same screens in the flats all game and Toney has been pigeonholed as a gimmick by the staff.

We're just a bit over a month out from the games that matter, we've lost 3 out of the last 5, and the defense hasn't looked this vulnerable in a long time and the offense still grinds to a halt way too often due to a failure to execute.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It was an RPO and Mahomes changed it from a running play to a pass to Skyy Moore. DB knew the signal too.

This isn't all on Skyy. Some of it is on Patrick

What else has the NFL figured out about us? Have we become stale in our calling? Mahomes not switching up the change calls because he doesn't want to confuse the WR's?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Yeah. I have no earthly idea what Skyy Moore has done to earn the playing time he does but his presence has arguably cost us 3 games single-handedly. It's not a stretch to say he's the most detrimental WR in the league currently.

And for ****s sake, get Rice and Toney involved AS DOWNFIELD TARGETS. Holy ****, Rice just runs the same screens in the flats all game and Toney has been pigeonholed as a gimmick by the staff.

We're just a bit over a month out from the games that matter, we've lost 3 out of the last 5, and the defense hasn't looked this vulnerable in a long time and the offense still grinds to a halt way too often due to a failure to execute.

This shit just comes down to coaching. I don't know if it's the WR coach, Nagy or Reid but someone is ****ing this up. Watson, MVS and Skyy have ****ed up routes multiple times in more than one game and you can tell Mahomes doesn't trust them 100%.

Toney is barely seen at all and Rice is just NOW starting to show what he can do.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by kgrund

I know we have talked about this at length, but is is so dang frustrating to see how literally small MVS plays. On the non-call defensive pass interference, MVS know he has the defensive player behind him and can essentially box him out from having much of a play on the ball, if not all, by making himself big. Instead MVS essentially shrinks and allows the DB to become a bigger part of the play then he should have. A.J. Brown, Chase, etc. box the DB off and go up and snatch that ball. Just maddenning to see a big WR play soo small.

... Give MVS all the shit you want for the drop, etc, but to say it was his fault when he had a guy choking his neck and jumping on his back on the play last night is stupidity...

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

This shit just comes down to coaching. I don't know if it's the WR coach, Nagy or Reid but someone is ****ing this up. Watson, MVS and Skyy have ****ed up routes multiple times in more than one game and you can tell Mahomes doesn't trust them 100%.

Toney is barely seen at all and Rice is just NOW starting to show what he can do.

Hate Sky, but he didn't **** up that route on the pick... That's all on Mahomes. Dback was over the top, should have been an RPO hand off or a back shoulder, that ball should have never been thrown there.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Hate Sky, but he didn't **** up that route on the pick... That's all on Mahomes. Dback was over the top, should have been an RPO hand off or a back shoulder, that ball should have never been thrown there.

I'm not talking specifically about that INT. That was on Mahomes. But this isn't the first time that Moore has rounded off his routes or not done what Mahomes was expecting him to do.

[OKchiefs]

I don't care how much they are or are not to blame, but some people need to lose their jobs in the offseason to send a message at the very least. Bleymaier and Embree both need to be given pink slips. Not sure Nagy should be fired, but he should be on the hot seat. A lot of blame probably falls with Reid as well, and considering he's going nowhere at the very least he needs to self-scout and stop being complacent.

The team needs new/outside voices on the offensive coaching staff, promoting some nobody offensive assistant or quality control coach isn't going to cut it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Hate Sky, but he didn't **** up that route on the pick... That's all on Mahomes. Dback was over the top, should have been an RPO hand off or a back shoulder, that ball should have never been thrown there.

I don’t like mahomes’ ball placement either. But if skyy finishes and sells his route defense is not in nearly a good position to make an easy play. It was a real bad route. I have no idea why he laid up.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Yeah. I have no earthly idea what Skyy Moore has done to earn the playing time he does but his presence has arguably cost us 3 games single-handedly. It's not a stretch to say he's the most detrimental WR in the league currently.

And for ****s sake, get Rice and Toney involved AS DOWNFIELD TARGETS. Holy ****, Rice just runs the same screens in the flats all game and Toney has been pigeonholed as a gimmick by the staff.

We're just a bit over a month out from the games that matter, we've lost 3 out of the last 5, and the defense hasn't looked this vulnerable in a long time and the offense still grinds to a halt way too often due to a failure to execute.

They can't play Toney very much until January. The guy is made of ****ing glass and they know it.

Guy got hurt on the first day of camp. He'll just last week he looked fine until Friday when he got hurt in practice.

[Sassy Squatch]

It's literal insanity that Moore still gets the snaps he does. We've lost 7 games since he was drafted and he's been a huge factor why in 5 of them.

The horrible Colts game in 2022.

The dog shit route against the Bills that nailed the coffin in 2022.


The Lions debacle with Toney.

Dropping a 4th down TD pass against the Broncos.

That dog shit route yesterday against the Packers.

I don't think it's too off base to declare Moore as the absolute worst pick of the entire Veach regime.