Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 57

**Rain Man** · 11:30 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

**Rain Man** · 04-30-2021, 09:01 PM

You can also add midseason acquisitions to your roster. They are:

Deandre Baker
Antonio Callaway
Prince Tega Wanogho
Bryan Witzmann

All of the camp fodder guys too, but you can wait until we get closer to cuts to add them.

**Rain Man** · 04-30-2021, 09:45 PM

In accepting the Orlando Brown trade, and since I didn't have DeAndre Washington to trade away, my picks are:

Round Pick
2 58
2 63
4 144
5 175
5 181
7 258

kccrow · 04-30-2021, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

One thing I've learned over the years is that it's hard to draft left tackles, so even though I enjoy drafting I'm definitely going to accept the Orlando Brown trade.

I think the problem lies more in where the tackles went this year. You have to give up so much to get to a guy in either the 1st or 2nd to get to the spots they went that it doesn't even seem worth fighting against the Chiefs' trade. Kind of disappointing. Then, if I make the trade I feel pigeon-holed to a few players after that.

Kellerfox · 05-01-2021, 07:30 PM

I desperately worked through the mental gymnastics of trying to decline the OBJ trade just because I want my new roster to be unique (ie, use the Chiefs original 1st to draft a LT), but there just aren’t any scenarios that make sense with the post-draft pick trade devaluation. Given that, The Tacoma Trash Pandas are accepting the OBJ trade - the value is just too good.

Clarification/confirmation: Am I able to accept the Chiefs move up in the 5th round without the devaluation penalty? (Assuming I have pick #207 to enable that trade because the Chiefs had it when I started the game)

kccrow · 05-01-2021, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox

I desperately worked through the mental gymnastics of trying to decline the OBJ trade just because I want my new roster to be unique (ie, use the Chiefs original 1st to draft a LT), but there just aren’t any scenarios that make sense with the post-draft pick trade devaluation. Given that, The Tacoma Trash Pandas are accepting the OBJ trade - the value is just too good.

Clarification/confirmation: Am I able to accept the Chiefs move up in the 5th round without the devaluation penalty? (Assuming I have pick #207 to enable that trade because the Chiefs had it when I started the game)

Yes you can. You get the picks the Chiefs had when you started the game. No devaluation for accepting a team trade.

kccrow · 05-03-2021, 02:41 AM

Yeti's 2021 Offseason

I had De'Andre Washington on my roster and accept the 2020 in-season trade with our 7th round pick for Round 6 pick #207.

I am going to be ballsy and not accept the Chiefs' trade with Baltimore for OT Orlando Brown Jr.

This gives me a starting draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-175, 5-181, and 6-207.

I am going to accept the Chiefs' in-draft trade-up, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I am going to execute a trade down from 5-181 with the Chicago Bears for picks 6-208 (acquired in their trade of Adam Shaheen in 2020), 6-221 (comp), and 6-228 (comp). 5-181 is 19.0 pts, discounted at 65% to 12.35 pts. 6-208 is 8.2 pts, 6-221 is 3 pts, and 6-228 is 1 pt good for 12.2 pts.

This leaves me a draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-162, 6-208, 6-221, 6-226, and 6-228.

I make the following selections.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Selected with 2-39 by Chicago

Jenkins is a ferocious blocker on the outside and shows potential to play either LT or RT in the NFL. I'm not banking on LT, as I've tried to hedge that bet later, but in listening to the Bears and his former collegiate coach talk, it seems he'll get his shot at the blind side.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Selected with 3-76 by New Orleans

Adebo is one of my favorite CBs coming out of this draft with good mirror skills and outstanding ball production. I think he has a shot to be an immediate starter in New Orleans and would have made a good pick for the Chiefs. He compliments Sneed on the outside and Byron Murphy in the slot on my team.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Selected with 3-96 by New England

It seems I always gravitate towards taking a mid-round shot on an edge rusher and Perkins is no different here. I think Perkins was a first round caliber player that fell in the draft and Belichick seemed pretty excited to get him. Perkins may start out as a situational rusher but I don't think it'll take long to climb the ranks if he perfects his technique early on.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Selected with 4-138 by Dallas

I'll say this, if not for the sexual assault issues for Ball at Florida State, he may have ended up a 1st or 2nd round player but transferring and missing time because of it on top of that made him fall further than his talent suggests. Ball will definitely get a shot at LT in Dallas, especially if Smith goes down again and certainly into the future.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Selected with 5-158 by Carolina

I really didn't need to add more to my defensive tackle group but this was too outstanding of a value. I saw Nixon as a Kawaan Short clone and certainly as a high 2nd round player. Nixon going in the 5th was blasphemy and I really think the Panthers got a steal here. Nixon should fight for a immediate reps on obvious passing downs and develop into a future starter, and potentially a star, in the NFL. I'm taking this shot.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Selected with 5-162 by Kansas City

Much like the actual Chiefs, I sorely lack a TE #2 on my roster so I'm cloning their move here and taking Gray. Gray has flashed some major potential as a receiving threat in an H-back type role. I think Reid will have some fun designing plays that put Gray and Kelce on the field at the same time to attack the middle of the field.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
Selected with 6-220 by Green Bay

I trade out of the 181st pick to get more darts late. I see McDuffie as much of the same type of player as former Packer Blake Martinez in that they are a little undersized but have good change of direction and solid speed to the sidelines. The one plus is that McDuffie flies around with reckless abandon and could endear himself to coaches early on. McDuffie never may be more than a special teams guy but I'll take that shot late in the 6th.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Selected with 6-226 by Kansas City

I had to grab Trey Smith late as KC did and take a shot on his lungs not being an issue. Smith is an absolute monster of a guard that had late 1st to early 2nd ability on the field. Obviously teams didn't like the clot issue and worry about his longevity but I'm banking on him having it under control and getting a stud that can slip in at RG for the forseeable future.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Selected with 7-242 by New England

I'm going out on a limb here and taking Nixon to add some juice to my receiving corps that's pretty strong as it sits. I have faith that Belicheck is going to marry this kid to a jugs machine all offseason in an effort to eliminate his one real weakness: drops. Other than that, Nixon has great speed and outstanding separation ability at all 3 levels of the field in the mold of many Belichick slot receivers.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
Selected with 7-244 by Miami

I was enamored with Gerrid Doaks in the pre-draft process and had to find a way to get him. Trading down provided an opportunity to get a couple other guys while still adding Doaks. Doaks is a bigger back with outstanding athleticism, can run inside or outside, and is outstanding in the passing game as a receiver and blocker. If Doaks can stay healthy, an issue in college at times, the sky is really the limit with his talent on the field.

Temporary Roster

Spoiler!

Kellerfox · 05-03-2021, 07:16 PM

Tacoma Trash Pandas’ Draft

Begrudgingly, I am accepting the OBJ trade because I see no other way to protect our starting quarterbacks blindside this season.

I am accepting the Chiefs draft day trade, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I’m also stealing Kccrow’s trade down, swapping #5-181 for the Bear’s #6-208, #6-221, and #6-228 in an effort to have more unique players on my new expansion team (trying to diversify as quickly as possible).

I really wanted to make 100% unique selections different from the Chiefs, but a few of our selections were just too much value to pass up.

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#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

Basham is a big and athletic pass rusher who is capable of playing both outside and inside in a four man front. Although Buffalos edge position is very crowded with two servicable starters and Gregory Rousseau, I think Basham’s flexibility will allow him to see the field early and flourish. Looking ahead to the Trash Panda’s 2022 roster, this move was ,add proactively to give me flexibility in next years draft.

I also heavily considered Nick Bolton and Paulson Adebo at this spot. I passed on Bolton in an effort to diversify my roster from the Chiefs and Adebo because of injury concerns, even though he likely starts for the Saints this season.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Brett Veach may be no Kellerfox, but he did have the right idea here. I can’t pass up the opportunity to draft the best center in the 2021 class who should be an instant starter.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

While I love the idea of finding a long term answer at TE2 and considered taking a Brevin Jordan, I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to lock in the drafts 4th best RB this late. Gainwell should slip into the RB2 role for the Eagles and is a fairly similar player to fellow Tiger Antonio Gibson in terms of play style. Given that Miles Saunders is made of glass, o expect Gainwell to see significant action this season and trust that he will never look back once he has seized his opportunity.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

In our quest for WR depth after the departure of Sammy Watkins, the Trash Pandas turn to Frank Darby. Darby is a bit of a tweener who is tough enough to make the tough catches in the middle but also has enough speed to get open deep. I like the opportunity he has in Atlanta to see early playing time which will spring board him into a hall of fame career.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

Undersized but great mobility. The Trash Pandas are going to give McDuffie a year or two to show us some upside, but we anticipate that LB will be a big need for us next year.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

Tay was a bit of a draft enigma. He was a late declaration, did not participate in camps, and has minimal film. Word on the street is, some teams had him slotted as high as the 4th so he is great value at this point and is primed to see snaps for the Cardinals this year.

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

How could I say no? 2nd round talent at #226? Like the Chiefs, I’m rolling the dice than Smith is healthy enough to be a long term solution at RG.

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Big DT to reinforce the center of our DL, we see Tonga having great value as a late round flier. The knock against him is athleticism, he relies too heavily on strength. Will that allow him to succeed in the NFL? We shall see...

**Rain Man** · 05-03-2021, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

Rainman, can you verify this for draft picks?

Option to accept the in-season trade of DeAndre Washington (if on your roster) and 2021 7th for 2021 6th
Option to trade 2021 1st #31, 3rd #94, 4th #136 2022 5th for OT Orlando Brown Jr. 2021 2nd #58 and 2022 6th

Picks

1-31 (if not trading for Brown)
2-58 (if trading for Brown)
2-63
3-94 (if not trading for Brown)
4-136 (if not trading for Brown)
4-144 (comp)
5-175
5-181 (comp)
6-207 (if trading Washington)
6-215 (if didn't accept trade for 2020 7th to pick Keyes)
7-258 (if not trading Washington)

Oh, good catch on the Bopete thing. These all sound right.

**Rain Man** · 05-04-2021, 01:05 AM

Okay, first things first. We're making a trade down. We're giving up the #181 pick to Arizona, which is worth 13 points (20 points x .65 adjustment). In return, we'll get the Cardinals' #209, #223, and #247 picks (8.8, 3.3, and 0.85 points) per the trade table: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...l?page_id=6682

We will also accept the Orlando Brown trade with its various dealings.

We didn't have DeAndre Washington so the late-round trade with the Jets isn't possible.

So we now have the following picks:

#2-58
#2-63
#4-144
#5-175
#6-209
#6-215
#7-223
#7-247
#7-258

They will be announced after I sleep on a few decisions.

**Rain Man** · 05-09-2021, 10:14 PM

Okay, here's my draft.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers)

My choice here came down to Marshall or ILB Nick Bolton. However, I'm desperate for WRs so Marshall filled a slot better for me.

#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars)

We're okay on starters at safety, but will likely lose one or both in the next couple of years. Cisco seems like an instant starter and could even start for us as a rookie.

I debated between Cisco, WR Anthony Schwartz, and CB Paulson Adebo. If I needed a center, I would have definitely gone with Creed Humphrey. I really wanted Schwartz, but it seemed like a better pick to take Cisco.

#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens)

I'm generally pretty good at drafting CBs, so I've got a good stable. But I need another one with upside, and Wade is it.

The choice came down to Wade or TE Brevin Jordan. I need depth at TE, but it's hard to spend picks on the position when I've got Kelce there.

#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots)

This was my toughest pick, because there were four players I really liked: McGrone, WR Simi Fehoko, ILB KJ Britt, and CB Deommodore Lenoir. I went back and forth on these guys and finally picked McGrone over Lenoir because I can't draft OLBs so I have to keep trying.

#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts)

I need a developmental QB and didn't see any other prospects who wowed me, so Ehlinger was the only guy I considered.

#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears)

My WR group is weak, so I'll give Newsome a shot. I didn't really consider anyone else.

#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs)

This was another tough one, because there were several guys I liked. Other than Smith, I was intrigued by G Jack Anderson, CB Israel Mukuami, and S JaCoby Stevens. Even though I'm very strong at G, I couldn't pass up Smith's potential.

#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars)

I traded down specifically to draft a couple of undrafted free agents. The first of those is Moses, who is trying to come back from a major knee injury. He got back onto the field, but with questions about how well his recovery went. I'll roll the dice. I didn't consider anyone else.

#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns)

This one's a big risk, but with potential reward. He looked good in the past, but had a terrible final year in college and also is apparently a vocal locker room guy in a way that's not welcomed. For a late pick I'll give him a shot, even though I already have a bunch of bodies at the DT spot. I didn't consider anyone else.

Kellerfox · 07-24-2021, 02:57 PM

Think I missed the pre-training camp edit deadline - but I’m going to stick with my draft picks. I’ve been second guessing a few, but Im going to trust my initial decisions.

Kellerfox · 08-18-2021, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

Yeti's 2021 Offseason

I had De'Andre Washington on my roster and accept the 2020 in-season trade with our 7th round pick for Round 6 pick #207.

I am going to be ballsy and not accept the Chiefs' trade with Baltimore for OT Orlando Brown Jr.

This gives me a starting draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-175, 5-181, and 6-207.

I am going to accept the Chiefs' in-draft trade-up, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207.

I am going to execute a trade down from 5-181 with the Chicago Bears for picks 6-208 (acquired in their trade of Adam Shaheen in 2020), 6-221 (comp), and 6-228 (comp). 5-181 is 19.0 pts, discounted at 65% to 12.35 pts. 6-208 is 8.2 pts, 6-221 is 3 pts, and 6-228 is 1 pt good for 12.2 pts.

This leaves me a draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-162, 6-208, 6-221, 6-226, and 6-228.

I make the following selections.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Selected with 2-39 by Chicago

Jenkins is a ferocious blocker on the outside and shows potential to play either LT or RT in the NFL. I'm not banking on LT, as I've tried to hedge that bet later, but in listening to the Bears and his former collegiate coach talk, it seems he'll get his shot at the blind side.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Selected with 3-76 by New Orleans

Adebo is one of my favorite CBs coming out of this draft with good mirror skills and outstanding ball production. I think he has a shot to be an immediate starter in New Orleans and would have made a good pick for the Chiefs. He compliments Sneed on the outside and Byron Murphy in the slot on my team.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Selected with 3-96 by New England

It seems I always gravitate towards taking a mid-round shot on an edge rusher and Perkins is no different here. I think Perkins was a first round caliber player that fell in the draft and Belichick seemed pretty excited to get him. Perkins may start out as a situational rusher but I don't think it'll take long to climb the ranks if he perfects his technique early on.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Selected with 4-138 by Dallas

I'll say this, if not for the sexual assault issues for Ball at Florida State, he may have ended up a 1st or 2nd round player but transferring and missing time because of it on top of that made him fall further than his talent suggests. Ball will definitely get a shot at LT in Dallas, especially if Smith goes down again and certainly into the future.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Selected with 5-158 by Carolina

I really didn't need to add more to my defensive tackle group but this was too outstanding of a value. I saw Nixon as a Kawaan Short clone and certainly as a high 2nd round player. Nixon going in the 5th was blasphemy and I really think the Panthers got a steal here. Nixon should fight for a immediate reps on obvious passing downs and develop into a future starter, and potentially a star, in the NFL. I'm taking this shot.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Selected with 5-162 by Kansas City

Much like the actual Chiefs, I sorely lack a TE #2 on my roster so I'm cloning their move here and taking Gray. Gray has flashed some major potential as a receiving threat in an H-back type role. I think Reid will have some fun designing plays that put Gray and Kelce on the field at the same time to attack the middle of the field.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
Selected with 6-220 by Green Bay

I trade out of the 181st pick to get more darts late. I see McDuffie as much of the same type of player as former Packer Blake Martinez in that they are a little undersized but have good change of direction and solid speed to the sidelines. The one plus is that McDuffie flies around with reckless abandon and could endear himself to coaches early on. McDuffie never may be more than a special teams guy but I'll take that shot late in the 6th.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Selected with 6-226 by Kansas City

I had to grab Trey Smith late as KC did and take a shot on his lungs not being an issue. Smith is an absolute monster of a guard that had late 1st to early 2nd ability on the field. Obviously teams didn't like the clot issue and worry about his longevity but I'm banking on him having it under control and getting a stud that can slip in at RG for the forseeable future.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Selected with 7-242 by New England

I'm going out on a limb here and taking Nixon to add some juice to my receiving corps that's pretty strong as it sits. I have faith that Belicheck is going to marry this kid to a jugs machine all offseason in an effort to eliminate his one real weakness: drops. Other than that, Nixon has great speed and outstanding separation ability at all 3 levels of the field in the mold of many Belichick slot receivers.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
Selected with 7-244 by Miami

I was enamored with Gerrid Doaks in the pre-draft process and had to find a way to get him. Trading down provided an opportunity to get a couple other guys while still adding Doaks. Doaks is a bigger back with outstanding athleticism, can run inside or outside, and is outstanding in the passing game as a receiver and blocker. If Doaks can stay healthy, an issue in college at times, the sky is really the limit with his talent on the field.

Temporary Roster

Spoiler!

Rough news of Tevin Jenkins today (back surgery, out for a few months). Think he still has a bright future though.

I almost skipped the OBJr trade to go with Jenkins. Despite the setback, I think he's in a good situation to bounce back.

kccrow · 08-20-2021, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox

Rough news of Tevin Jenkins today (back surgery, out for a few months). Think he still has a bright future though.

I almost skipped the OBJr trade to go with Jenkins. Despite the setback, I think he's in a good situation to bounce back.

I think it has become obvious that the originally stated condition by Oklahoma State medical staff, that he had a "back strain," was not updated through any of the draft process. That "strain" magically followed him to the pros, which means it caused misalignment and, potentially, nerve damage.

I think there's a great chance he does bounce back, but I likely wouldn't have made the pick if I knew that it was something beyond a strain that was properly handled.

My 4th round guy, Ball, is out multiple weeks with a high ankle too.

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2021, 06:49 PM

As a reminder, you can add guys to your roster if they arrived as free agents and you've never previously cut them. Guys new to the Chiefs after opening day of 2020 are:

Deandre Baker
Blake Bell
Austin Blythe
Michael Burton
Daurice Fountain
Jerick McKinnon
Jarran Reed
Joe Thuney

You can also trade your 2022 6th-round pick for Mike Hughes and the Vikings 2022 7th-round pick.

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2021, 08:16 PM

Okay, it's time to announce my 2021 53-man roster.

QB

Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Easton Stick
Sam Ehlinger (Colts)

I'm sure glad that I drafted Wilson. Behind him I've got two developmental backups that I like.

RB

Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Justin Jackson (Chargers)
Damien Williams
Rashaad Penny (Seahawks)

It's a pretty deep bench with talent at the top. Rashaad Penny is probably on his last chance for me, but I retain optimism that he'll break out.

FB

Michael Burton

Since I'm only carrying two TEs I figured I should have a fullback.

WR

Terrace Marshall (Panthers)
James Washington (Steelers)
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)
Andy Isabella (Cardinals)
Daurice Fountain
Dazz Newsome (Bears)

My area of weakness for a while, but I'm hearing good things about Marshall. I've invested a lot in this position and need some guys to step up.

TE

Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Blake Bell

I'm glad I drafted Kelce. We're bringing Bell back to back him up.

OT

Orlando Brown, Jr.
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs)

An area of weakness for years is suddenly a strength.

G

Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Joe Thuney
Trey Smith (Chiefs)

Okay, my offensive line is suddenly a powerhouse.

C

Cody Whitehair (Bears )
Austin Blythe

Whitehair has moved back to G for the Bears, but I'll keep him at C to complete a strong line.

K
Harrison Butker

Best in the business.

P
Tommy Townsend

We'll give Tommy another year.

LS
James Winchester

Best in the business.

S

FS
Tyrann Matthieu
Andre Cisco (Jaguars)
Jordan Poyer (Bills)

I'm hearing good things about Cisco, so this unit looks strong.

CB

Marcus Peters (Ravens)
Bashaud Breeland
Desmond King (Chargers)
Shaun Wade (Ravens)
Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders)
Deandre Baker

I have a lot of slot corners, but overall I think this is a strong group.

OLB

Jaylon Ferguson
AJ Klein (Bills)
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Anthony Nelson
Cameron McGrone (patriots)

I'm relying on some young guys to step up here. I've heard good reports about Ferguson this summer.

MLB

Anthony Hitchens
Dylan Moses (Jaguars)

Moses likely won't play this year, so Hitchens is my guy.

DE

Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings)
Alex Okafor
Dorance Armstrong

As with the OLBs, I'm relying on some young guys to step up this year.

DT

Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Jarran Reed
Tershawn Wharton
Star Lotulelei (Bills)
Andrew Billings (Bengals)
Maurice Hurst
Marvin Wilson (Browns)

An interesting mix of veterans and young guys.

All in all, I would say that my offense is very strong other than weakness at the WR spot. My defense is strong in the backfield and at DT, but edges and the rest of the front seven are a big question mark going into the season.

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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04-30-2021, 09:01 PM	#841
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	You can also add midseason acquisitions to your roster. They are: Deandre Baker Antonio Callaway Prince Tega Wanogho Bryan Witzmann All of the camp fodder guys too, but you can wait until we get closer to cuts to add them. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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04-30-2021, 09:45 PM	#842
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	In accepting the Orlando Brown trade, and since I didn't have DeAndre Washington to trade away, my picks are: Round Pick 2 58 2 63 4 144 5 175 5 181 7 258 __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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05-01-2021, 07:30 PM	#844
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-59600	I desperately worked through the mental gymnastics of trying to decline the OBJ trade just because I want my new roster to be unique (ie, use the Chiefs original 1st to draft a LT), but there just aren’t any scenarios that make sense with the post-draft pick trade devaluation. Given that, The Tacoma Trash Pandas are accepting the OBJ trade - the value is just too good. Clarification/confirmation: Am I able to accept the Chiefs move up in the 5th round without the devaluation penalty? (Assuming I have pick #207 to enable that trade because the Chiefs had it when I started the game) Last edited by Kellerfox; 05-01-2021 at 07:37 PM..
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05-03-2021, 02:41 AM	#846
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $76403	Yeti's 2021 Offseason I had De'Andre Washington on my roster and accept the 2020 in-season trade with our 7th round pick for Round 6 pick #207. I am going to be ballsy and not accept the Chiefs' trade with Baltimore for OT Orlando Brown Jr. This gives me a starting draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-175, 5-181, and 6-207. I am going to accept the Chiefs' in-draft trade-up, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207. I am going to execute a trade down from 5-181 with the Chicago Bears for picks 6-208 (acquired in their trade of Adam Shaheen in 2020), 6-221 (comp), and 6-228 (comp). 5-181 is 19.0 pts, discounted at 65% to 12.35 pts. 6-208 is 8.2 pts, 6-221 is 3 pts, and 6-228 is 1 pt good for 12.2 pts. This leaves me a draft of 1-31, 2-63, 3-94, 4-136, 4-144, 5-162, 6-208, 6-221, 6-226, and 6-228. I make the following selections. 1-31 \| OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317) Selected with 2-39 by Chicago Jenkins is a ferocious blocker on the outside and shows potential to play either LT or RT in the NFL. I'm not banking on LT, as I've tried to hedge that bet later, but in listening to the Bears and his former collegiate coach talk, it seems he'll get his shot at the blind side. 2-63 \| CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198) Selected with 3-76 by New Orleans Adebo is one of my favorite CBs coming out of this draft with good mirror skills and outstanding ball production. I think he has a shot to be an immediate starter in New Orleans and would have made a good pick for the Chiefs. He compliments Sneed on the outside and Byron Murphy in the slot on my team. 3-94 \| ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253) Selected with 3-96 by New England It seems I always gravitate towards taking a mid-round shot on an edge rusher and Perkins is no different here. I think Perkins was a first round caliber player that fell in the draft and Belichick seemed pretty excited to get him. Perkins may start out as a situational rusher but I don't think it'll take long to climb the ranks if he perfects his technique early on. 4-136 \| OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308) Selected with 4-138 by Dallas I'll say this, if not for the sexual assault issues for Ball at Florida State, he may have ended up a 1st or 2nd round player but transferring and missing time because of it on top of that made him fall further than his talent suggests. Ball will definitely get a shot at LT in Dallas, especially if Smith goes down again and certainly into the future. 4-144 \| DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313) Selected with 5-158 by Carolina I really didn't need to add more to my defensive tackle group but this was too outstanding of a value. I saw Nixon as a Kawaan Short clone and certainly as a high 2nd round player. Nixon going in the 5th was blasphemy and I really think the Panthers got a steal here. Nixon should fight for a immediate reps on obvious passing downs and develop into a future starter, and potentially a star, in the NFL. I'm taking this shot. 5-162 \| TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240) Selected with 5-162 by Kansas City Much like the actual Chiefs, I sorely lack a TE #2 on my roster so I'm cloning their move here and taking Gray. Gray has flashed some major potential as a receiving threat in an H-back type role. I think Reid will have some fun designing plays that put Gray and Kelce on the field at the same time to attack the middle of the field. 6-208 \| LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227) Selected with 6-220 by Green Bay I trade out of the 181st pick to get more darts late. I see McDuffie as much of the same type of player as former Packer Blake Martinez in that they are a little undersized but have good change of direction and solid speed to the sidelines. The one plus is that McDuffie flies around with reckless abandon and could endear himself to coaches early on. McDuffie never may be more than a special teams guy but I'll take that shot late in the 6th. 6-221 \| OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321) Selected with 6-226 by Kansas City I had to grab Trey Smith late as KC did and take a shot on his lungs not being an issue. Smith is an absolute monster of a guard that had late 1st to early 2nd ability on the field. Obviously teams didn't like the clot issue and worry about his longevity but I'm banking on him having it under control and getting a stud that can slip in at RG for the forseeable future. 6-226 \| WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187) Selected with 7-242 by New England I'm going out on a limb here and taking Nixon to add some juice to my receiving corps that's pretty strong as it sits. I have faith that Belicheck is going to marry this kid to a jugs machine all offseason in an effort to eliminate his one real weakness: drops. Other than that, Nixon has great speed and outstanding separation ability at all 3 levels of the field in the mold of many Belichick slot receivers. 6-228 \| RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228) Selected with 7-244 by Miami I was enamored with Gerrid Doaks in the pre-draft process and had to find a way to get him. Trading down provided an opportunity to get a couple other guys while still adding Doaks. Doaks is a bigger back with outstanding athleticism, can run inside or outside, and is outstanding in the passing game as a receiver and blocker. If Doaks can stay healthy, an issue in college at times, the sky is really the limit with his talent on the field. Temporary Roster Spoiler! OFFENSE QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - Gerrid Doaks (#6-226/21 - MIA) FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC) TE - Travis Kelce TE - Noah Gray (#5-162 - KC) TE - Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC) TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) WR - Antonio Calloway (FA/20 - KC) WR - Tre Nixon (#6-226/21 - NE) OT - Teven Jenkins (#1-31/21 - CHI) LG - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC) OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OG - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) OT - Josh Ball (#4-136/21 - DAL) OG - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) OT - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) OT - Yasir Durant (UDFA/20 - KC) OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OG - Kyle Long (FA/21 - KC) OC - Austin Blythe (FA/21 - KC) OL - Eric Fisher OL - Mitchell Schwartz OG - Trey Smith (#6-221/21 - KC) DEFENSE DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - DAL) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) DL - Jarran Reed (FA/21 - KC) DL - Daviyon Nixon (#4-144/21 - CAR) ER - Justin Houston (FA) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - NE) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - NO) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) ER - Ronnie Perkins (#3-94/21 - NE) LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) LB - Isaiah McDuffie (#6-208 - GB) CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) CB - Paulson Adebo (#2-63/21 - NO) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) CB - DeAndrew Baker (FA/20 - KC) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - FA) DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) LS James Winchester
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05-03-2021, 07:16 PM	#847
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-59600	Tacoma Trash Pandas’ Draft Begrudgingly, I am accepting the OBJ trade because I see no other way to protect our starting quarterbacks blindside this season. I am accepting the Chiefs draft day trade, acquiring 5-162 and 6-226 for 5-175 and 6-207. I’m also stealing Kccrow’s trade down, swapping #5-181 for the Bear’s #6-208, #6-221, and #6-228 in an effort to have more unique players on my new expansion team (trying to diversify as quickly as possible). I really wanted to make 100% unique selections different from the Chiefs, but a few of our selections were just too much value to pass up. ——————————————— #2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills) Basham is a big and athletic pass rusher who is capable of playing both outside and inside in a four man front. Although Buffalos edge position is very crowded with two servicable starters and Gregory Rousseau, I think Basham’s flexibility will allow him to see the field early and flourish. Looking ahead to the Trash Panda’s 2022 roster, this move was ,add proactively to give me flexibility in next years draft. I also heavily considered Nick Bolton and Paulson Adebo at this spot. I passed on Bolton in an effort to diversify my roster from the Chiefs and Adebo because of injury concerns, even though he likely starts for the Saints this season. #2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs) Brett Veach may be no Kellerfox, but he did have the right idea here. I can’t pass up the opportunity to draft the best center in the 2021 class who should be an instant starter. #4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles) While I love the idea of finding a long term answer at TE2 and considered taking a Brevin Jordan, I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to lock in the drafts 4th best RB this late. Gainwell should slip into the RB2 role for the Eagles and is a fairly similar player to fellow Tiger Antonio Gibson in terms of play style. Given that Miles Saunders is made of glass, o expect Gainwell to see significant action this season and trust that he will never look back once he has seized his opportunity. #5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons) In our quest for WR depth after the departure of Sammy Watkins, the Trash Pandas turn to Frank Darby. Darby is a bit of a tweener who is tough enough to make the tough catches in the middle but also has enough speed to get open deep. I like the opportunity he has in Atlanta to see early playing time which will spring board him into a hall of fame career. #6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers) Undersized but great mobility. The Trash Pandas are going to give McDuffie a year or two to show us some upside, but we anticipate that LB will be a big need for us next year. #6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals) Tay was a bit of a draft enigma. He was a late declaration, did not participate in camps, and has minimal film. Word on the street is, some teams had him slotted as high as the 4th so he is great value at this point and is primed to see snaps for the Cardinals this year. #6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs) How could I say no? 2nd round talent at #226? Like the Chiefs, I’m rolling the dice than Smith is healthy enough to be a long term solution at RG. #6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears) Big DT to reinforce the center of our DL, we see Tonga having great value as a late round flier. The knock against him is athleticism, he relies too heavily on strength. Will that allow him to succeed in the NFL? We shall see... Last edited by Kellerfox; 05-03-2021 at 07:25 PM..
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05-04-2021, 01:05 AM	#849
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	Okay, first things first. We're making a trade down. We're giving up the #181 pick to Arizona, which is worth 13 points (20 points x .65 adjustment). In return, we'll get the Cardinals' #209, #223, and #247 picks (8.8, 3.3, and 0.85 points) per the trade table: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...l?page_id=6682 We will also accept the Orlando Brown trade with its various dealings. We didn't have DeAndre Washington so the late-round trade with the Jets isn't possible. So we now have the following picks: #2-58 #2-63 #4-144 #5-175 #6-209 #6-215 #7-223 #7-247 #7-258 They will be announced after I sleep on a few decisions. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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05-09-2021, 10:14 PM	#850
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	Okay, here's my draft. #2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) My choice here came down to Marshall or ILB Nick Bolton. However, I'm desperate for WRs so Marshall filled a slot better for me. #2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) We're okay on starters at safety, but will likely lose one or both in the next couple of years. Cisco seems like an instant starter and could even start for us as a rookie. I debated between Cisco, WR Anthony Schwartz, and CB Paulson Adebo. If I needed a center, I would have definitely gone with Creed Humphrey. I really wanted Schwartz, but it seemed like a better pick to take Cisco. #4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) I'm generally pretty good at drafting CBs, so I've got a good stable. But I need another one with upside, and Wade is it. The choice came down to Wade or TE Brevin Jordan. I need depth at TE, but it's hard to spend picks on the position when I've got Kelce there. #5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) This was my toughest pick, because there were four players I really liked: McGrone, WR Simi Fehoko, ILB KJ Britt, and CB Deommodore Lenoir. I went back and forth on these guys and finally picked McGrone over Lenoir because I can't draft OLBs so I have to keep trying. #6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) I need a developmental QB and didn't see any other prospects who wowed me, so Ehlinger was the only guy I considered. #6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) My WR group is weak, so I'll give Newsome a shot. I didn't really consider anyone else. #7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) This was another tough one, because there were several guys I liked. Other than Smith, I was intrigued by G Jack Anderson, CB Israel Mukuami, and S JaCoby Stevens. Even though I'm very strong at G, I couldn't pass up Smith's potential. #7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars) I traded down specifically to draft a couple of undrafted free agents. The first of those is Moses, who is trying to come back from a major knee injury. He got back onto the field, but with questions about how well his recovery went. I'll roll the dice. I didn't consider anyone else. #7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) This one's a big risk, but with potential reward. He looked good in the past, but had a terrible final year in college and also is apparently a vocal locker room guy in a way that's not welcomed. For a late pick I'll give him a shot, even though I already have a bunch of bodies at the DT spot. I didn't consider anyone else. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history. Last edited by Rain Man; 05-09-2021 at 10:23 PM..
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07-24-2021, 02:57 PM	#851
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-59600	Think I missed the pre-training camp edit deadline - but I’m going to stick with my draft picks. I’ve been second guessing a few, but Im going to trust my initial decisions.
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08-31-2021, 06:49 PM	#854
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	As a reminder, you can add guys to your roster if they arrived as free agents and you've never previously cut them. Guys new to the Chiefs after opening day of 2020 are: Deandre Baker Blake Bell Austin Blythe Michael Burton Daurice Fountain Jerick McKinnon Jarran Reed Joe Thuney You can also trade your 2022 6th-round pick for Mike Hughes and the Vikings 2022 7th-round pick. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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08-31-2021, 08:16 PM	#855
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1199936 VARSITY	Okay, it's time to announce my 2021 53-man roster. QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Easton Stick Sam Ehlinger (Colts) I'm sure glad that I drafted Wilson. Behind him I've got two developmental backups that I like. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints) Justin Jackson (Chargers) Damien Williams Rashaad Penny (Seahawks) It's a pretty deep bench with talent at the top. Rashaad Penny is probably on his last chance for me, but I retain optimism that he'll break out. FB Michael Burton Since I'm only carrying two TEs I figured I should have a fullback. WR Terrace Marshall (Panthers) James Washington (Steelers) Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns) Andy Isabella (Cardinals) Daurice Fountain Dazz Newsome (Bears) My area of weakness for a while, but I'm hearing good things about Marshall. I've invested a lot in this position and need some guys to step up. TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Blake Bell I'm glad I drafted Kelce. We're bringing Bell back to back him up. OT Orlando Brown, Jr. Morgan Moses (Redskins) Lucas Niang, G/T (Chiefs) An area of weakness for years is suddenly a strength. G Wyatt Teller (Browns) Joe Thuney Trey Smith (Chiefs) Okay, my offensive line is suddenly a powerhouse. C Cody Whitehair (Bears ) Austin Blythe Whitehair has moved back to G for the Bears, but I'll keep him at C to complete a strong line. K Harrison Butker Best in the business. P Tommy Townsend We'll give Tommy another year. LS James Winchester Best in the business. S FS Tyrann Matthieu Andre Cisco (Jaguars) Jordan Poyer (Bills) I'm hearing good things about Cisco, so this unit looks strong. CB Marcus Peters (Ravens) Bashaud Breeland Desmond King (Chargers) Shaun Wade (Ravens) Amik Robertson, CB (Raiders) Deandre Baker I have a lot of slot corners, but overall I think this is a strong group. OLB Jaylon Ferguson AJ Klein (Bills) Zach Baun, LB (Saints) Anthony Nelson Cameron McGrone (patriots) I'm relying on some young guys to step up here. I've heard good reports about Ferguson this summer. MLB Anthony Hitchens Dylan Moses (Jaguars) Moses likely won't play this year, so Hitchens is my guy. DE Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers) Ifeadi Odenigbo (Vikings) Alex Okafor Dorance Armstrong As with the OLBs, I'm relying on some young guys to step up this year. DT Brandon Williams (Ravens) Jarran Reed Tershawn Wharton Star Lotulelei (Bills) Andrew Billings (Bengals) Maurice Hurst Marvin Wilson (Browns) An interesting mix of veterans and young guys. All in all, I would say that my offense is very strong other than weakness at the WR spot. My defense is strong in the backfield and at DT, but edges and the rest of the front seven are a big question mark going into the season. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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