2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[duncan_idaho]

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

[WhawhaWhat]

Fun tidbit about Justin Maxwell: his dad was the dentist to presidents Clinton and Bush. Maxwell easily one of smartest guys in MLB

— greg schaum (@Greg_Schaum) July 31, 2013

[Shogun]

Dyson is out of options correct?

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I tried to trade him to you fellas at the start of the season for a reliever or SS prospect but was advised by Duncan that he's no better than Christian Colon and by the rest of the Royals homers that he's not worth a bucket of piss.

I also tried to trade you guys Allen Craig for Herrerra and Collins and was also told that the Royals would be stupid to make such a move. I was about to murder Mitchell Boggs and would've given my first-born for a legitimate closer option at the time.

You guys really are half-crazy sometimes. It's not Orioles-fans bad, but it's pretty bad.

I doubt many if any fans would argue against trading a middle reliever for a guy who hit 22 home runs and OPSd 876 last year. Not saying you're lying, but it sure seems like you're lying or exaggerating because I'd trade most bullpen guys for anything since they're vastly overrated.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Shogun

Dyson is out of options correct?

Yup. No chance he makes it through waivers so he would be gone for good.

[OmahaChief]

It seems every time the Royals make a move go on a losing streak. Here's to hoping that is not the case this year.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I tried to trade him to you fellas at the start of the season for a reliever or SS prospect but was advised by Duncan that he's no better than Christian Colon and by the rest of the Royals homers that he's not worth a bucket of piss.

I also tried to trade you guys Allen Craig for Herrerra and Collins and was also told that the Royals would be stupid to make such a move. I was about to murder Mitchell Boggs and would've given my first-born for a legitimate closer option at the time.

You guys really are half-crazy sometimes. It's not Orioles-fans bad, but it's pretty bad.

I'm still not that wowed by Wong (who I think ultimately is a LHH Omar Infante), and in my defense, at the start of the year he was coming off a .754 OPS in a hitter's park in a hitter's league hitting in front of the best or second-best hitter in the minor leagues.

I don't remember exactly what I said about Colon vs. Wong, but I know I was saying I didn't see a big spread between them, based on their production. They were similar (.754 OPS vs. .756 OPS in the Texas League) guys in many ways, though Wong is what, 18 months younger? I think you wanted Mondesi for him, which was an ultimate no-go for me.

I'm a HUGE Mondesi believer, and if you compare his numbers at age 17 to what Profar did at the same age, I think you'll see why. He is putting up the same numbers in his age 17/18 season that Profar did in his age 17 season... but Mondesi is doing it in the Southern League and Profar was in Low-A.

I remember being all over Craig for Herrera and Collins. Would have loved to pull the trigger on that one.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I doubt many if any fans would argue against trading a middle reliever for a guy who hit 22 home runs and OPSd 876 last year. Not saying you're lying, but it sure seems like you're lying or exaggerating because I'd trade most bullpen guys for anything since they're vastly overrated.

Deez, Saul and Nightfyre were all arguing against it around pages 33/34 and underselling the hell out of Craig.

Come to think of it, every time I see something from Nightfyre, it's usually pretty stupid. Something along the lines of "Salvador Perez is worth more than the entire Cardinals farm system..."

Maybe I'm just projecting his insanity onto the rest of you fine gentlemen. As for Deez, well nobody bats 1.000.

[penbrook]

Per Bob Dutton


#Royals manager Ned Yost says just-acquired OF Justin Maxwell likely to start Thursday against Twins LHP Scott Diamond.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I'm still not that wowed by Wong (who I think ultimately is a LHH Omar Infante), and in my defense, at the start of the year he was coming off a .754 OPS in a hitter's park in a hitter's league hitting in front of the best or second-best hitter in the minor leagues.

I don't remember exactly what I said about Colon vs. Wong, but I know I was saying I didn't see a big spread between them, based on their production. They were similar (.754 OPS vs. .756 OPS in the Texas League) guys in many ways, though Wong is what, 18 months younger? I think you wanted Mondesi for him, which was an ultimate no-go for me.

I'm a HUGE Mondesi believer, and if you compare his numbers at age 17 to what Profar did at the same age, I think you'll see why. He is putting up the same numbers in his age 17/18 season that Profar did in his age 17 season... but Mondesi is doing it in the Southern League and Profar was in Low-A.

I remember being all over Craig for Herrera and Collins. Would have loved to pull the trigger on that one.

I said Mondesi or Calixte. I knew you guys probably wouldn't hav egiven Mondesi for him, but Calixte seemed totally fair. At this point, however, I don't think I'd send him for Calixte. That K rate is terrifying.

[BlackHelicopters]

Originally Posted by penbook

Per Bob Dutton


#Royals manager Ned Yost says just-acquired OF Justin Maxwell likely to start Thursday against Twins LHP Scott Diamond.

To the watchtower

[sedated]

There's no way they send Lough down, right?

Right?

[WhawhaWhat]

Interested to see who the Royals put through waivers now. Hochevar, Chen, Santana?

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

To the watchtower

I'm hoping Getz or Johnson gets sent down.

Johnson has 1 hit in his last 35 AB.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by sedated

There's no way they send Lough down, right?

Right?

Of course not /Gio

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by sedated

There's no way they send Lough down, right?

Right?

Why would they? He's been a beast ever since we called him up.