****The Chris Jones Thread****

[Dante84]

He's our guy: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...t-chris-jones/

Coming to KC soon. #Salute pic.twitter.com/dFDRuUdDt3

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 30, 2016

Here's a bunch of his tape:

Spoiler!

.@PFF_Mike explains why the Chiefs just landed a highly-underrated DT in Chris Jones. https://t.co/b0G66chLl5 pic.twitter.com/iVQ0KXqY7s

— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) April 29, 2016

My scouting report on #Chiefs DL Chris Jones, who I believe has elite potential in NFLhttps://t.co/Nc2mJFYJEn pic.twitter.com/pIlxuf67iz

— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) April 29, 2016

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Have him whip that dick out and pay him $10 million per inch

For most of us we would be happy to sign that 57.5 million dollar contract

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Huh?

He's a vested veteran - all $19.5 million in base salary this season will be paid if he's on the roster on Day 1.

And they ain't cutting him anyway.

And any franchise tag money will be guaranteed. Unless he suffers a catastrophic injury next season (which seems unlikely for an interior lineman who's simply bigger and more flexible than most people), he'll get tagged - which is also going to be guaranteed.

No, he's under no pressure to extend. But I sure wouldn't mind it if he did.

If he tears an ACL he won't get tagged. Just saying he has no money in 24 secured right now. He would be wise to take a deal.

[RealSNR]

Wallcrawler, you still haven't answered my question. Where would you rank in-game decisions such as knowing when to call timeouts on the list of most important skills an NFL coach should possess?

Is it near the top for you?

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

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You don't think we already have problems with the Chargers and Raiders pass rush? Adding Chris Jones would push one of those teams over the top. Chris Jones was better than anyone on that Eagles D Line. You're just an idiot dude. An idiot that trash talks our 2nd best player and a HC that is one of the top 5 best ever.

You're wrong, but can't admit it. Probably cuz youre an incredible douche.

Also, I find it hard to blame a coaching staff for giving up huge leads. You don't know what plays he ran or what happened. You're too stupid to know. Pussy

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Wallcrawler, you still haven't answered my question. Where would you rank in-game decisions such as knowing when to call timeouts on the list of most important skills an NFL coach should possess?

Is it near the top for you?

He's dumb as shit, good luck. I don't think you'll get an answer and if you do I can guarantee it's dumber than shit. Just like he is.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I would say you don't mishandle fringe HOF players but when the price isn't right you trade high. That's the story of Tyreek anyway.

They'll get it done, Chris is irreplaceable. Great pass rushing DT's are as rare as great QB's. There's so few and they come up big when it matters most. Chris is that guy.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

I would say you don't mishandle fringe HOF players but when the price isn't right you trade high. That's the story of Tyreek anyway.

They'll get it done, Chris is irreplaceable. Great pass rushing DT's are as rare as great QB's. There's so few and they come up big when it matters most. Chris is that guy.

jones is the last player worthy of trading for future talent.

kelce...

too much tread on his tyres.

i'm not for trading either, but jones would reap us heaps in return.

[Chris Meck]

It'll get done. I'm not worried. It makes too much sense not to.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Great pass rushing DT's are as rare as great QB's.

Hell, they might be even more rare.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Wallcrawler, you still haven't answered my question. Where would you rank in-game decisions such as knowing when to call timeouts on the list of most important skills an NFL coach should possess?

Is it near the top for you?

A head coach should know how to properly use, or not use timeouts, and along with that, challenges on plays that don't ****ng matter early in a contest, that potentially cost you one of your 3 timeouts.

I'll go slow here, so try to keep up.

Superbowl V Buccanneers.

Game situation: Defense has not been able to stop a nosebleed, Patrick Mahomes has had zero protection, and our receivers forgot how to catch footballs.

2 minute warning of first half, Brady and the bucs run the football on first down, and do not spend a timeout, nor do they rush to the line.

Bruce Arians is content to surrender this possession, and go to half up 14-6, a mere 8 point lead.

Andy knows we get the ball to start second half. A possession is being surrendered and the chance to get out of this shitshow half and adjust with an opportunity to tie next drive.

Nah. It's not like our defense has already been flagged 6 times this half. TIMEOUT!!

Defense proceeds to give up 2 spot fouls leading to a TD when Brady, enraged at his gift being refused goes into scoring mode, now we're down 21-6 at half. Brilliant. Who saw that coming?


AFCCG V Bengals. Early in the game Andy throws a challenge flag for spot of the ball. In no way should this have been challenged on such an insignificant play so early.

KC loses the challenge, and a timeout.

Mere seconds left at the end of the half, 0 timeouts left, Andy Reid passes on a gimme FG. Patrick Mahomes tosses an ill fated pass to Hill behind the line of scrimmage, where he is tackled immediately and Mahomes is frantically calling timeout, a timeout he no longer has, because Big Red gambled it and lost it on a ****ing ball spot challenge in the first quarter.

The aftermath lives in infamy. The Chiefs are thrown into disarray after getting nothing before half, Mahomes seems to forget how to play football, Rabblerouser loses his mind and the Bengals go on to lose to stat padford and the in the superbowl we should have been in.

I could go on, but yeah. Timeout and challenge management are pretty God damn important. Especially when ****ing it up on the biggest stage cripples your chances of winning.

Hard truth remains fellas, Andy Reid has lost more post season contests that he was the favorite to win, than any other head coach in history.

It doesn't happen by accident.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It'll get done. I'm not worried. It makes too much sense not to.

Agreed. Can’t see why they wouldn’t as it is beneficial to both at this point.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

A head coach should know how to properly use, or not use timeouts, and along with that, challenges on plays that don't ****ng matter early in a contest, that potentially cost you one of your 3 timeouts.

I'll go slow here, so try to keep up.

Superbowl V Buccanneers.

Game situation: Defense has not been able to stop a nosebleed, Patrick Mahomes has had zero protection, and our receivers forgot how to catch footballs.

2 minute warning of first half, Brady and the bucs run the football on first down, and do not spend a timeout, nor do they rush to the line.

Bruce Arians is content to surrender this possession, and go to half up 14-6, a mere 8 point lead.

Andy knows we get the ball to start second half. A possession is being surrendered and the chance to get out of this shitshow half and adjust with an opportunity to tie next drive.

Nah. It's not like our defense has already been flagged 6 times this half. TIMEOUT!!

Defense proceeds to give up 2 spot fouls leading to a TD when Brady, enraged at his gift being refused goes into scoring mode, now we're down 21-6 at half. Brilliant. Who saw that coming?


AFCCG V Bengals. Early in the game Andy throws a challenge flag for spot of the ball. In no way should this have been challenged on such an insignificant play so early.

KC loses the challenge, and a timeout.

Mere seconds left at the end of the half, 0 timeouts left, Andy Reid passes on a gimme FG. Patrick Mahomes tosses an ill fated pass to Hill behind the line of scrimmage, where he is tackled immediately and Mahomes is frantically calling timeout, a timeout he no longer has, because Big Red gambled it and lost it on a ****ing ball spot challenge in the first quarter.

The aftermath lives in infamy. The Chiefs are thrown into disarray after getting nothing before half, Mahomes seems to forget how to play football, Rabblerouser loses his mind and the Bengals go on to lose to stat padford and the in the superbowl we should have been in.

I could go on, but yeah. Timeout and challenge management are pretty God damn important. Especially when ****ing it up on the biggest stage cripples your chances of winning.

Hard truth remains fellas, Andy Reid has lost more post season contests that he was the favorite to win, than any other head coach in history.

It doesn't happen by accident.

That’s not what I asked you. I didn’t ask if they were goddamn important or not. I asked you what you value the most in a head coach.

Is clock management your #1 coaching trait?

[New World Order]

Todd Haley had great clock management from what I can remember. Let’s hire him

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

A head coach should know how to properly use, or not use timeouts, and along with that, challenges on plays that don't ****ng matter early in a contest, that potentially cost you one of your 3 timeouts.

I'll go slow here, so try to keep up.

Superbowl V Buccanneers.

Game situation: Defense has not been able to stop a nosebleed, Patrick Mahomes has had zero protection, and our receivers forgot how to catch footballs.

2 minute warning of first half, Brady and the bucs run the football on first down, and do not spend a timeout, nor do they rush to the line.

Bruce Arians is content to surrender this possession, and go to half up 14-6, a mere 8 point lead.

Andy knows we get the ball to start second half. A possession is being surrendered and the chance to get out of this shitshow half and adjust with an opportunity to tie next drive.

Nah. It's not like our defense has already been flagged 6 times this half. TIMEOUT!!

Defense proceeds to give up 2 spot fouls leading to a TD when Brady, enraged at his gift being refused goes into scoring mode, now we're down 21-6 at half. Brilliant. Who saw that coming?


AFCCG V Bengals. Early in the game Andy throws a challenge flag for spot of the ball. In no way should this have been challenged on such an insignificant play so early.

KC loses the challenge, and a timeout.

Mere seconds left at the end of the half, 0 timeouts left, Andy Reid passes on a gimme FG. Patrick Mahomes tosses an ill fated pass to Hill behind the line of scrimmage, where he is tackled immediately and Mahomes is frantically calling timeout, a timeout he no longer has, because Big Red gambled it and lost it on a ****ing ball spot challenge in the first quarter.

The aftermath lives in infamy. The Chiefs are thrown into disarray after getting nothing before half, Mahomes seems to forget how to play football, Rabblerouser loses his mind and the Bengals go on to lose to stat padford and the in the superbowl we should have been in.

I could go on, but yeah. Timeout and challenge management are pretty God damn important. Especially when ****ing it up on the biggest stage cripples your chances of winning.

Hard truth remains fellas, Andy Reid has lost more post season contests that he was the favorite to win, than any other head coach in history.

It doesn't happen by accident.

Awful take and definitely a product of hindsight.

1. Most coaches would have tried to call a timeout in that SB. In hindsight it was the wrong call, but at the time the chance to get a score before halftime is hard to pass up. To know in that moment that KC would not get the ball back and TB would score a TD was not a given. Teams defer to the 2nd half for a reason and one of those is to have the chance to score twice before the other team touches the ball. Did it work? Nope. But zero issues with the call.

2. In the AFCCG, KC was moving the ball at will and scoring at will on Cincy in the first half. Going for it vs the FG was not a bad call. Had Hill scored it would have looked bold and seen as a great idea. It's only ridiculed because it did not work and now the viewpoint is he should have kicked the FG. KC still went in the locker room with a healthy lead and there was zero reason for the meltdown of the offense and Mahomes in the second half. To criticize Reid for a play not working when everything else did screams of hate and hindsight coaching. The lost timeout is NOT the reason for that loss.