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Old 12-15-2024, 04:22 PM  
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Playcalling is not the issue

Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.
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Old 12-15-2024, 11:44 PM   #61
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Mahomes has 16 TD and 3 INT in his last 8 games.

If that's "poor" we are truly spoiled.

The Chiefs task was to survive the last two games against two of the deadliest pass rushes in the NFL. They were never expected to flourish.

They passed that shit with flying colors. The defense held up their end and the offense did what was required to win.

Onwards and upwards.

“Flying colors” is super star qb hobbled and possibly missing time and “flourishing” is squeaking by the chargers and on 6 turnovers scoring 22 point then LOL

I get it but I just had too
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Old Yesterday, 12:13 AM   #62
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Andy calls the same plays he’s called every year he’s been here because it gets him 12 plus wins in the regular season. But if you pay attention his play calling changes in the playoffs significantly….which is why ….with Patrick. We’ve had more playoff wins than losses. His play calling in the regular season is intentional….but Andy’s play calling in the playoffs is superior!!
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Old Yesterday, 12:19 AM   #63
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“Flying colors” is super star qb hobbled and possibly missing time and “flourishing” is squeaking by the chargers and on 6 turnovers scoring 22 point then LOL

I get it but I just had too
The Chiefs were never expected to flourish offensively in either of these games.

Wanya was so ****ing bad that we were risking losing a game strictly because of the situation at LT.

Well, we found two band aids that got us two wins against two of the deadliest pass rushes in the NFL.

Lesser teams would not have found a way these past two weeks.

We have to do better on offense but the coaching staff gets credit for surviving these past two weeks. It would have been a better grade if they had just been a little smarter on 4th and 3, but that's the NFL.

We have given ourselves a better chance than anyone in football right now.
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Old Yesterday, 04:41 AM   #64
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Hunt and Pacheco each had 13 carries in the game.

Hunt had 3.5 YPC, Pacheco 2.5 YPC.

Against a Cleveland run defense that ranked near the bottom of the league.

Offensive line’s poor run blocking, impacted by Thuney moving to LT?

Hunt/Pacheco’s inability to break big runs?

Andy is getting criticized for not running more in the second half… which is valid criticism… but the running game was horseshit.
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Old Yesterday, 04:59 AM   #65
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Bro Mahomes is missing lots of "easy throws" I'm sure the OL is in his head but it's getting blatant the amount of yards and points left on the field every week.
His lack of trust and confidence in the offensive line is 100% justified.

I had to turn off Mitch & Matt in the Rewind because they were talking about the offensive line like they performed well.

I don't blame Mahomes because he has literally carried this franchise from purgatory to the mountain top, and his head coach refuses to protect him with play calling, and his GM thought going into the season with only a rookie and second year LT was a good idea.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 AM   #66
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Hunt and Pacheco each had 13 carries in the game.

Hunt had 3.5 YPC, Pacheco 2.5 YPC.

Against a Cleveland run defense that ranked near the bottom of the league.

Offensive line’s poor run blocking, impacted by Thuney moving to LT?

Hunt/Pacheco’s inability to break big runs?

Andy is getting criticized for not running more in the second half… which is valid criticism… but the running game was horseshit.
It has been most of the year. People just can't handle the truth - running the ball more would just lead to more 3 and outs. It isn't working and until they figure out the passing game, it won't.
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Old Yesterday, 08:38 AM   #67
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Hunt and Pacheco each had 13 carries in the game.

Hunt had 3.5 YPC, Pacheco 2.5 YPC.

Against a Cleveland run defense that ranked near the bottom of the league.

Offensive line’s poor run blocking, impacted by Thuney moving to LT?

Hunt/Pacheco’s inability to break big runs?

Andy is getting criticized for not running more in the second half… which is valid criticism… but the running game was horseshit.
The passing game was worse. Hopkins, Watson and Kelce are not getting open often. Kelce is not what he was. Mahomes missing passes, OL struggling.

There’s no explosion outside of Worthy
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Old Yesterday, 09:19 AM   #68
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It has been most of the year. People just can't handle the truth - running the ball more would just lead to more 3 and outs. It isn't working and until they figure out the passing game, it won't.
Yeah, the D doesn't respect the pass and plays near the LOS and just overpowers the offensive line. One can quibble about situation play calling but that's 2nd order.
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They've basically taken away the short passing game. There's a reason we see all the deep shots.
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Old Yesterday, 09:23 AM   #70
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It's not just LT that's the problem. Taylor is a problem, too. He telegraphs plays.
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They've basically taken away the short passing game. There's a reason we see all the deep shots.
Yes, so many of the completions were contested, very tight windows.
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The passing game was worse. Hopkins, Watson and Kelce are not getting open often. Kelce is not what he was. Mahomes missing passes, OL struggling.

There’s no explosion outside of Worthy
The OL is just not playing well.Thats the biggest reason for the struggles.

But man, still cant believe they called 3 pass plays in a row the series where Mahomes got hurt..Especially when one considers the game situation at the time.
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Playcalling is definitely an issue. Is it the only issue, NO.
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Lets be real its a combination of things, none unfixable, but were running out of time. The line has been below average, the receivers are slow and Mahomes just isn't getting rid of the ball in time. The last one can go a long way to fixing the other two but they all need improvement. The play calling yesterday was abysmal as well. You are up, run the ball, eat the clock keep your QB clean. Who ever was calling plays was not concerned about any of those things.

Basically we have to hope this is the Philly run where a bum ankle locked Mahomes in as a pocket passer and Andy as a WCO play caller and everything starts to click.
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