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Old 09-07-2023, 09:39 PM  
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We need to talk about 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1.

I'm not lying when I say that I'm more confident that we'll convert 3rd and 17 than 3rd and 1.

Why? What's the blind spot here? If nothing else, should they just pretend that every 3rd and 1 is actually 3rd and 17?

In the thread below, indulge me and tell me what our go-to play on 3rd and 1 should be.

I'll start. Mahomes option right with a running back wide of him. We'll convert that play 97 percent of the time.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:38 PM   #61
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I'm more curious as to why we feel it necessary to go for 4th and 25 in our own territory when the clock is still north of the two minute warning and we have all of our timeouts.
Poor coaching just like the calls on 3rd and one
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:40 PM   #62
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:42 PM   #63
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I'm more curious as to why we feel it necessary to go for 4th and 25 in our own territory when the clock is still north of the two minute warning and we have all of our timeouts.
Either way you are ****ed. You punt or you go for it. You are screwed. With any other team you probably just punt and pray but Mahomes is the best QB in the history of the league on 4th and long.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:45 PM   #64
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who do we even play next week?
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:05 PM   #65
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who do we even play next week?
No Kadarius. We have a bye week for the next 17 weeks. Enjoy your rest.
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:13 PM   #66
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Either way you are ****ed. You punt or you go for it. You are screwed. With any other team you probably just punt and pray but Mahomes is the best QB in the history of the league on 4th and long.
Obviously we were cooked by that point, but the only explanation would be that Andy knew his defense was spent and would just get steamrolled. Probably felt his best bet was something like... the ball that Toney dropped
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:28 PM   #67
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I’m so desperate to put an end to the overly complicated sideways moving plays I’m even willing to accept they let CEH run the ball.
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:38 PM   #68
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It's seemingly become a mental hurdle for the offense collectively as well.

When Andy feels the need to approach a 3rd and 1 with some ridiculous trick play, it makes it a WAY more stressful/suspenseful play than it should be.

Instead just get to the line quickly, run up the middle with Pacheco and let your interior offensive line help get you the one yard... preferably before the defense is able to completely get set.
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:38 PM   #69
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:48 PM   #70
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Maybe get a running back that can run the ball up the
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Old 09-07-2023, 11:51 PM   #71
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Maybe get a running back that can run the ball up the
If Pacheco can't do it we have a run block or a scheme problem.

I think I'd chalk it up to the latter at this point.
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Old 09-08-2023, 01:16 AM   #72
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Apparently me and Geoff Schwartz have no idea what we are talking about.
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Old 09-08-2023, 02:30 AM   #73
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I feel like trying to run that kind of gadget/trick from a really condensed formation will just never work?
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Play calling was ridiculously bad tonight.

But not surprised, it has been bad for a while now.
Really? Was it bad when the confetti was falling in Feb.
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