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Old 10-21-2021, 09:02 PM  
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Yeesh - Alec Baldwin just plopped into a world of hurt
Breaking - details forthcoming

Discharged a 'prop' weapon that resulted in a death and another severe injury.

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Old 10-22-2021, 07:53 AM   #61
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And in all those years no one ever mentioned that you should handle every gun as though it’s a hot gun, you arrogant asshole?
Well but, if the director tells you to point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger, are you supposed to say "no" because it's not good gun safety?
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:54 AM   #62
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I suppose my question would be why do movie sets even have live ammunition?
why would he point it at someone on set and fire it?
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:55 AM   #63
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I suppose my question would be why do movie sets even have live ammunition?

Yeah this makes no sense. It certainly doesn’t sound like it was a blank or some other malfunction of the prop breaking or something.
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:56 AM   #64
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And in all those years no one ever mentioned that you should handle every gun as though it’s a hot gun, you arrogant asshole?
Wtf? Its a movie set.

Hey Alec, for this scene we need you to take this here prop gun and shoot it at the enemy over there, OK? - No, sorry. No can do. That could be a real gun with live ammunition.
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why would he point it at someone on set and fire it?
That was his job?
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:57 AM   #66
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Well but, if the director tells you to point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger, are you supposed to say "no" because it's not good gun safety?
If the ****ing thing is capable of firing, hell yes you say no.

And it’s unclear to me that that’s what happened except in the imaginations of a couple of commenters in this thread. Is that what actually happened?
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If the ****ing thing is capable of firing, hell yes you say no.

And it’s unclear to me that that’s what happened except in the imaginations of a couple of commenters in this thread. Is that what actually happened?
I'm pretty sure all the John Wick movies would have sucked if Keanu did this.
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If the ****ing thing is capable of firing, hell yes you say no.

And it’s unclear to me that that’s what happened except in the imaginations of a couple of commenters in this thread. Is that what actually happened?
It's speculation. The cinematographer being killed while the director was standing behind them makes it seem pretty likely.

It sounds like there are "real" guns loaded with blanks being fired all day every day on studio sets. Gonna guess they aren't all being fired while pointing at down-range targets. Assuming Baldwin was using this gun in the filming of a scene, and not just goofing off with it on his own, it seems hard to imagine holding him responsible in any way. Also, his personal political beliefs about guns have nothing to do with his willingness to use them on set.
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This reminds me of a story my dad told me when he played trumpet in his high school's orchestra. They were playing an easier arrangement of the 1812 Overture, but the director nevertheless wanted to have a cannon. He came up with a solution where the percussionist (back in the 60s when you could do this kind of thing) would fire a shotgun blank into a sandbox. Worked like a charm and provided a suitable enough effect.

Well, the shotgun had been used over the weekend and returned to the school for the Monday evening concert. Nobody bothered to check if the shotgun was empty.

So the big moment in the music happens... the student aims at the sandbox...

...and blasts a hole right through the damn stage!
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I'm pretty sure all the John Wick movies would have sucked if Keanu did this.
I don’t know what a John Wick movie is, but Keanu’s acting is usually as far as one needs to look for a reason something sucks.
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It's speculation. The cinematographer being killed while the director was standing behind them makes it seem pretty likely.

It sounds like there are "real" guns loaded with blanks being fired all day every day on studio sets. Gonna guess they aren't all being fired while pointing at down-range targets. Assuming Baldwin was using this gun in the filming of a scene, and not just goofing off with it on his own, it seems hard to imagine holding him responsible in any way. Also, his personal political beliefs about guns have nothing to do with his willingness to use them on set.
Yes, and there's now a thread in DC where that can be discussed. Keep it in there.
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Yeah this makes no sense. It certainly doesn’t sound like it was a blank or some other malfunction of the prop breaking or something.
Yeah. Unlikely if it blew apart it goes through her body with a blank round.
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I don’t know what a John Wick movie is, but Keanu’s acting is usually as far as one needs to look for a reason something sucks.
The John Wick movies are great, for the record. Keanu doesn't exactly have the greatest acting range, but he plays the stoic badass well.
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It's speculation.
Not interested then.
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