Cassel > Cutler by Mel Kiper Jr.

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Tuesday with Mel Kiper Jr.

Mel says Cassel is better than Cutler


This week, Jay Cutler's moaning has distracted Mel Kiper Jr. from his usual draft content. "Talk about whining and complaining -- this is at the top of the list," Kiper says.
Kiper: Cassel > Cutler

Cutler's complaining came about because the Denver Broncos tried to trade Cutler in a three-team deal that would have brought over Matt Cassel from New England. But when the trade fell through, Cutler started to complain.

Kiper says Cassel would have been an "upgrade" over Cutler and that Cutler is, to put it mildly, overrated. "[Cutler] throws one pass, he's a Hall of Famer," Kiper says. "I've seen the media put him in the Hall of Fame. I had to run to the bathroom quick. It was making me ill. I've been hearing this overhype. "This guy was overhyped at the combine, he was overhyped at Senior Bowl week, he's been overhyped before he was drafted. The media, they love Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler can do no wrong. I've been saying he's overrated since day one. Everyone's been pounding their chests saying, 'Oh, I love Jay Cutler, I'm a genius.' They have egg on their face now." Kiper points out that Cutler has yet to lead the Broncos to a winning record or a playoff appearance. Also, Kiper says, "[Cutler] makes throws that leave you scratching your head, which I said on draft day when he was picked. Yeah, he's got a strong arm, but my daughter knew he had a strong arm. She could've written that report."

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Kiper compares Cutler to Jeff George. "Jeff George had a great arm, and Jeff George had a lot of great games in this league, and people were putting Jeff George in the HOF early in his career," Kiper says. "So I'm just telling you, this is ridiculous." Also, Cutler once said he had a better arm than John Elway. Not surprisingly, Kiper isn't a big fan of that comment, either. "So what? Who cares? Why would you make a comparison to John Elway? That could be taken like you're in a position to critique the quarterback that is a legend."
Cornerbacks

Back to discussing the draft. "There isn't that one true shutdown cornerback available this year," Kiper says. "And after the subpar 40 times run by the defensive backs at the combine workout, this position isn't really as strong or as deep as originally anticipated." Michael Jenkins, Ohio State: "Jenkins is barely maintaining his spot as the No. 1 cornerback," Kiper says. Although Kiper points out that Jenkins "brings a ton of experience and sound technique to the position," he ran a 4.55 40-yard dash at the combine, which makes Kiper worry whether he's worthy of first-round consideration. Vontae Davis, Illinois: Davis is on Jenkins' heels as the top cornerback in this class. But "he lacks the necessary consistency and is still a work in progress," Kiper says. "But physically, he has the awesome physical talent you look for to warrant a first-round grade." D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt: Kiper says he has impressive cover skills, good return skills, smooth hips and good ball skills, but he lacks good recovery speed. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest: "The 5-9, 193-pounder would be a first-round lock if he were a few inches taller and a bit faster," Kiper says. Darius Butler, Connecticut: Butler is a multiskilled athlete with outstanding recovery speed, Kiper says. Butler also saw action on offense, with nine receptions, and is a solid kick returner.

Underrated: Donald Washington, Ohio State: Washington left school early, a move that many people questioned, but Kiper says he is a solid second-rounder and will draw consideration in the latter portion of Round 1. "He has the physical skills you look for," Kiper says.

Others with early-round potential

• Jairus Byrd, Oregon
• Keenan Lewis, Oregon State
• Brandon Hughes, Oregon State
• Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina
• Sean Smith, Utah
• Asher Allen, Georgia
• Jerraud Powers, Auburn

Safeties

Because USC's Taylor Mays opted to return to school, there isn't a true star at safety in this draft, Kiper says. William Moore, Missouri: After his junior season, in which he made eight interceptions, he was considered a first-round pick. But Kiper says a foot injury early in his senior season caused him to have just one pick last season. However, he ran an "impressive" 4.5-second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine. "He could turn out to be a steal in Round 2," Kiper says. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan: "A true ball hawk at free safety." Rashad Johnson, Alabama: "Had a spectacular year in the SEC, evidenced by his three-interception performance against LSU back in early November," Kiper says. He adds that Johnson is smart and instinctive, with his only weakness being a lack of ideal size (5-foot-11, 202 pounds). Others with early-round potential

• Emanuel Cook, South Carolina
• Patrick Chung, Oregon
• Sherrod Martin, Troy
• Darcel McBath, Texas Tech
• Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest
• David Bruton, Notre Dame
• Michael Hamlin, Clemson

Outside linebackers

"While there are several high-profile inside linebackers, there's no question the outside linebacker spot is much better when it comes to talent and overall depth," Kiper says. He predicts that as many as four outside linebackers could be chosen in Round 1 of the draft. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest: Curry is the top player on Kiper's draft board. The multidimensional linebacker gets "high grades in all aspects of outside linebacker play." Kiper says he is destined to be a perennial Pro Bowler. Brian Cushing, USC: Kiper says Cushing is able to perform effectively in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme. Also, he is more "proven and battle-tested" than his teammate Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews, USC: Matthews is in the Mike Vrabel mold and excels as a pass-rusher, Kiper reports. He is rocketing up draft boards after one season as a starter at USC. Larry English, Northern Illinois: "He was a force to be reckoned with with the Huskies." Clint Sintim, Virginia: "He has the talent and wingspan to operate on his feet or shift to a down defensive end position." He likely will be drafted in the second round. Inside linebackers

Rey Maualuga, USC: "He ranks as one of the hardest-hitting tacklers you will ever come across." James Laurinaitis, Ohio State: "He isn't flashy and lacks awesome computer numbers, but he gets extremely high grades in the consistency department." Kiper believes he needs to be protected by quality defensive tackle play. Others with early-round potential

• Jason Phillips, TCU
• Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh
• Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
• Gerald McRath, Southern Mississippi
• Darry Beckwith, LSU

T.O.'s replacement?

With Terrell Owens gone, Kiper thinks Roy Williams will have to step up and be the No. 1 receiver in Dallas. "When he was at [the University of] Texas, he had great talent -- he flashed it time and time again." But Kiper believes Williams needs to be more assertive. "Don't be necessarily T.O. or Randy Moss. But you've got to go out there and have a little bit of an attitude -- a little chip on your shoulder," Kiper says. So who will play opposite Williams? Kiper says the Cowboys could find a quick slot receiver in the second round, like Brian Robiskie from Ohio State or Juaquin Iglesias from Oklahoma. Or they could roll the dice and go for Pat White from West Virginia, a quarterback whom many teams view as a wide receiver. Kiper says White could be the next Antwaan Randle El. But those are the Cowboys' options only if Hakeem Nicks (North Carolina) and Kenny Britt (Rutgers) are off the board by the time the Cowboys make their first pick of the draft in Round 2.








LOL. Cutler fans have egg on their face.... hahaha what a great insult.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

And if Cutler is upside comparable to Stafford, I don't want Stafford either.

THE reason I prefer Sanchez over Stafford. The ONLY reason, actually. See below.

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

And personally I'll take mental makeup over a 100 yard laser arm any day. Joe Montana was anything but a strong armed guy. Its accuracy and mental makeup that is everything in a QB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I agree. Cutler has played well. Using those stats is like saying Dan Marino sucked because he never won the superbowl. Fans like that are annoying.

We have the ability to look back in hindsight on the entirety of Marino's career. We don't have that with Cutler yet. Furthermore, Marino won an AFC Championship, even if he never won it all. Cutler has yet to get there.

Everybody bitches about not wanting a "game manager". Well, what's the difference between Cutler and the proverbial "system QB"? The great QB's elevate their game mentally. Cutler hasn't yet proven he can do that.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Cutler has shown that he can win games. He is definitely a competitor. Vanderbilt won a lot games because of him. And the broncos have too. He does need to improve his attitude, but the guy does show up to work and trains hard and competes and wins games with his arm. how high was the broncos offense rated?

Vanderbilt won 5 games while Cutler was there. Please.

Furthermore, offensive statistics don't win anything.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You are aware of Vandy's standing, athletically and academically, amongst the other SEC schools correct?

You are aware that a QB can't play defense correct?

Gonzalez played on the shittiest team in football last year; does that make him a bad TE?

You do know that Cutler is a Pro-Bowl QB correct?

Let's be fair here. The Pro-Bowl is 100% unequivocally a popularity contest and really nothing more.

[TommyHawk69]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Cutler has shown that he can win games. He is definitely a competitor. Vanderbilt won a lot games because of him. And the broncos have too. He does need to improve his attitude, but the guy does show up to work and trains hard and competes and wins games with his arm. how high was the broncos offense rated?

Take off the donkey goggles for a minute and look at reality

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

THE reason I prefer Sanchez over Stafford. The ONLY reason, actually. See below.

Yep! That arm can get better and better with the right training and coaching, but stand-up leader, mechanics that would make a T-2000 jealous, mastery of misdirection, and the ability to inspire and push your team effectively can't...be...bought.

Viva' la Revolution!

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Que Card QB

It's stupid? Why because he knows McDaniels' play book and Cutler wouldn't have to learn a new system?

A patsy? Is that what a QB who knows his OC's system is? I think that's just a strange statement.

Stupid to piss off your franchise QB on a trade that didn't happen. Stupid to want a back-up QB over a Pro-Bowler. Cassell is a serviceable back up so long as he has a strong defense keeping the game close. Cassel would have to learn how to play with B-Marsh and Royal and the other WRs while Cutler is in sync with them.

Patsy=New England Patriot.

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Let's be fair here. The Pro-Bowl is 100% unequivocally a popularity contest and really nothing more.

Very true. IMO, Cutler should've been at home watching Rivers play.

[TommyHawk69]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We have the ability to look back in hindsight on the entirety of Marino's career. We don't have that with Cutler yet. Furthermore, Marino won an AFC Championship, even if he never won it all. Cutler has yet to get there.

Everybody bitches about not wanting a "game manager". Well, what's the difference between Cutler and the proverbial "system QB"? The great QB's elevate their game mentally. Cutler hasn't yet proven he can do that.

This.

How many playoffs Marino went to and how many playoff games won? Division titles?

Cutler 0

[1ChiefsDan]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Stupid to piss off your franchise QB on a trade that didn't happen. Stupid to want a back-up QB over a Pro-Bowler. Cassell is a serviceable back up so long as he has a strong defense keeping the game close. Cassel would have to learn how to play with B-Marsh and Royal and the other WRs while Cutler is in sync with them.

Patsy=New England Patriot.

I thought that was brilliant!

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Stupid to piss off your franchise QB on a trade that didn't happen. Stupid to want a back-up QB over a Pro-Bowler. Cassell is a serviceable back up so long as he has a strong defense keeping the game close. Cassel would have to learn how to play with B-Marsh and Royal and the other WRs while Cutler is in sync with them.

Patsy=New England Patriot.

Cassel = 11-5 and knows the system
Cutler = 8-8 and knows how to throw a hissy fit that would make a 2 year old proud

Yes, it's clear that only Cutler can get the job done in Denver.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

I thought that was brilliant!

Oh I'm sure you all did.
****ing McKid. He better show something early on or Bowlen could dump him for a coach that already has hair on his balls.

In fairness McKid and Xanders have put together a nice FA season. We'll see.

In the mean time by all means enjoy the turmoil in Bronco land.(IMHO the real problem is B-Marsh's almost sure suspension)

[RINGLEADER]

Now all we need is a defense.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Cassel = 11-5 and knows the system
Cutler = 8-8 and knows how to throw a hissy fit that would make a 2 year old proud

Yes, it's clear that only Cutler can get the job done in Denver.

The Patsy system is no secret. Cutler mastered Shanny's offense which is leaps and bounds more complex than the NE "use the TE as a third WR and work for YAC instead of long downfield strikes" offense. Both QBs can master the system, why choose the one with inferior physical skills who has no rapport with the WRs?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by vailpass

In the mean time by all means enjoy the turmoil in Bronco land.(IMHO the real problem is B-Marsh's almost sure suspension)

Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't been talked about more.