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Old 12-19-2008, 11:46 AM  
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Who replaces Gunther
Regardless of if Herm is still here "which I believe is highly unlikely". Who would you like to see as Gunther's replacement?
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:06 PM   #61
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Define dismantling the team. I see that and similar terms used all the time on here, but I am confused as to what it means.
Dismantle as in out with the old, and in with the new. Herm wanted to go young. He didn't want to hold onto aging vets, and start a guy like Damon Huard. He didn't want to keep and play a guy like Sammy Knight, Ty Law, Pat Surtain. He wanted a fresh team, with fresh players. He has that now. Let's give him a chance to see what he can do with it.

I'm all for hanging Herm like the rest of you if he can't get the job done with his players (and he supposedly has them now) but I don't believe he has had a fair chance without Carl dictating the gameplan to him.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:11 PM   #62
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:13 PM   #63
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Dismantle as in out with the old, and in with the new. Herm wanted to go young.
Isn't that what every team does every year via the draft? I just don't buy the argument that Herm is in the first year of his rebuilding process. The rebuilding process is an annual occurrence for every team (unless they have traded away their draft picks). Herm's been at it 3 years. He wasn't saddled with having no draft picks because they had been traded away.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:18 PM   #64
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Wow -- no one is really defending Gunther. It's about time.
I don't know what's going on with him, is the D just relied on to much, they have had some bright spots, but lots of injuries this year, I don't know, I want to like Gun, but I don't know if he gets a pass. krummie for sure doesn't, no top drafted lineman has turned out successful (I know jury still out right now on dorsey)
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:24 PM   #65
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I don't know what's going on with him, is the D just relied on to much, they have had some bright spots, but lots of injuries this year, I don't know, I want to like Gun, but I don't know if he gets a pass. krummie for sure doesn't, no top drafted lineman has turned out successful (I know jury still out right now on dorsey)
Yes. It's time to stop giving him a free pass.

F**k Gunther.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:34 PM   #66
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:49 PM   #67
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It's funny no one mentions Rivera anymore. A few years ago everybody here had a big hard-on for him. He was THE MAN! You guys too easily fall in love with any D coach who has had some success in only the previous year. The same thing is happening on this thread.
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Dismantle as in out with the old, and in with the new. Herm wanted to go young. He didn't want to hold onto aging vets, and start a guy like Damon Huard. He didn't want to keep and play a guy like Sammy Knight, Ty Law, Pat Surtain. He wanted a fresh team, with fresh players. He has that now. Let's give him a chance to see what he can do with it.

I'm all for hanging Herm like the rest of you if he can't get the job done with his players (and he supposedly has them now) but I don't believe he has had a fair chance without Carl dictating the gameplan to him.
Herm brought in Ty Law.
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:00 PM   #69
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Morris is my choice, but with kiffen leaving he will most likely be Tampa's new DC
I was hoping he hadn't yet decided to leave and join Lane's staff.
I guess that was confirmed a few days ago though according to various reports.

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Herm brought in Ty Law.
I thought the same thing when I read TRR's post.



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Marinelli would be more sought after by Tampa, than Herm would.
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Gun is going to stay as another year just like Herm is.
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I thought the same thing when I read TRR's post.



The Herm backers are lost at sea.
Yeah, things get all twisted, causing the memory to get flustrated.
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:44 PM   #75
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Herm brought in Ty Law.
And everyone(especially fans) proceeded to do cartwheels over that signing too.....
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