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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 AM  
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I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Old 08-24-2007, 10:36 AM   #61
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Look Laz, sorry if i made you mad. But just look at how much people are overreacting already (not everyone, but alot) and its only preseason!


All along, ive been for starting Croyle and all the young players: Bowe, Tank, Turk, etc..


Are they going to make mistakes? Hell yes they will, but thats how they grow and learn. I just wish everyone was a little more patient, but i do understand the frustration. People are tired of Carls 35 year plan.
you're fine, i'm just more irritated than anything.

i'll move on ... forgive and forget after leaving this thread.


Chiefs fans broadly trashing Chiefs nation?!?


don't we have enough problems with the general media then to kick each other in the groin all the time?
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:38 AM   #62
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Chiefs fans broadly trashing Chiefs nation?!?


don't we have enough problems with the general media then to kick each other in the groin all the time?
Agreed. Ill try and word myself a little better next time.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:39 AM   #63
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as usual ... your reading skills are selective at best

i said "i wonder how many ......" i didn't say any ARE stupid


that pretty much leaves it up to a judgement on each individual case.


but keep trying, Mr. Spinmeister.
If that were the case, why did you say it?

You said you wonder HOW MANY aren't smart enough. That would imply that some ARE indeed not smart enough.

You made the EXACT SAME verbiage mistake you chastised Deberg for making.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:40 AM   #64
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Agreed. Ill try and word myself a little better next time.



if we don't support "us" then what are Peter King, and all those other bums, gonna do?
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:46 AM   #66
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if we don't support "us" then what are Peter King, and all those other bums, gonna do?
It is unfortunate.

We need to win a SUPER BOWL!!!
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You made the EXACT SAME verbiage mistake you chastised Deberg for making.
not even remotely

Chiefs fans are spoiled = ALL
wonder how many Chiefs fans = completely amount unspecific
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:51 AM   #68
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Last night's meltdown has made me realize that Carl really is a genious.

He's given Chiefs fans exactly what they want: 9-7 forever...a little bit of hope married to the least amount of risk.

And now, having not even played one regular season game, the Croyle experiment is over. KCJohnny was here last night telling us that Terrell is our best QB and that Croyle is our 4th best.

Fans peeing themselves everywhere. Flooding Carl's voicemail with frantic cries for Huard and 9-7..."Please, Carl!! Huard...9-7...save us!."

Carl understands that in the deepest part of Chief Fan's heart there is a mortal fear of risk, of the unknown. We don't really deserve our own QB, that's something other Franchises get.

So adios Brodie. You had more than enough time in your 50 preseason snaps for us to pass judgment on you and find you wanting. But take heart! You got 49 more snaps more than any other "QBOTF" in Chiefs history.

And now we will wait until we have a great OL...whenever the **** that is. And then, with a great OL we will draft another QB - but only if we have great WRs!...we must have a great OL and great WRs. And in the meantime we have Huard. Next year we can sign another Vet backup QB a la Grbac, a la Green, a la Gannon, a la Huard. They will pacify us with the warm and familiar 9-7 until the perfect moment - that moment when everyone is great and talented and healthy, and that moment will be........
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Its really hard to say which way to go. David Carr was ruined by a terrible offense, but it was over several years. Not one bad year. Look at Troy Aikman (1-15), and Peyton Manning (3-13). Not only did they survive one bad year, they bounced back, and both won superbowls. One is in the hall of Fame, and the other will be. Give Croyle the start, he will survive, and we will draft a top 5 OL to protect him next year.
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If we did go with Huard, it would be hard for me to be interested in this team at all this year.

It would just be an admission that we might be sort of committed to the future, but not all that committed to the future. That Carl and the rest of the regime still, after 20 years, haven't learned the lesson that we can't keep going through this cycle of mediocrity where we just add a couple players, call it a 'reload', and then try to make the playoffs again.

If we are committed to winning a championship now would be the time to prove it. Winning 8 games this year instead of 4-5-6 gets us not one inch closer to a Super Bowl championship.
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Last night's meltdown has made me realize that Carl really is a genious.

He's given Chiefs fans exactly what they want: 9-7 forever...a little bit of hope married to the least amount of risk.

And now, having not even played one regular season game, the Croyle experiment is over. KCJohnny was here last night telling us that Terrell is our best QB and that Croyle is our 4th best.

Fans peeing themselves everywhere. Flooding Carl's voicemail with frantic cries for Huard and 9-7..."Please, Carl!! Huard...9-7...save us!."

Carl understands that in the deepest part of Chief Fan's heart there is a mortal fear of risk, of the unknown. We don't really deserve our own QB, that's something other Franchises get.

So adios Brodie. You had more than enough time in your 50 preseason snaps for us to pass judgment on you and find you wanting. But take heart! You got 49 more snaps more than any other "QBOTF" in Chiefs history.

And now we will wait until we have a great OL...whenever the **** that is. And then, with a great OL we will draft another QB - but only if we have great WRs!...we must have a great OL and great WRs. And in the meantime we have Huard. Next year we can sign another Vet backup QB a la Grbac, a la Green, a la Gannon, a la Huard. They will pacify us with the warm and familiar 9-7 until the perfect moment - that moment when everyone is great and talented and healthy, and that moment will be........
hahaha...Brilliant.
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I would rather be in it every year because once you get in the big dance anything can happen. Look at the colts ravens and the bucs over the last couple years. They didn't set atchison on fire, but they went out and won anyway
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And now we will wait until we have a great OL...whenever the **** that is. And then, with a great OL we will draft another QB - but only if we have great WRs!...we must have a great OL and great WRs. And in the meantime we have Huard. Next year we can sign another Vet backup QB a la Grbac, a la Green, a la Gannon, a la Huard. They will pacify us with the warm and familiar 9-7 until the perfect moment - that moment when everyone is great and talented and healthy, and that moment will be........
Heh.

We will only play a QBOTF when the rest of the offense is ready to win. But then, we can't afford to start a young'un, can we? We'll need a veteran back there to maximize that great OL and WRs. Why waste all that talent with someone who doesn't know what he's doing?

Vicious circle, ain't it?
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