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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:42 AM   #721
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You've literally advocated for just playing Sumaitaia and taking our lumps, but Humphries in front of him is unreliable?

Yes? Humphries is hurt all the ****ing time. Let's say you sign him to be a bridge and he inevitably gets hurt a month into the season. Great. Now you're forced to plug in Suamataia regardless AND he hasn't gotten valuable first team reps since you wasted them on Humphries.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:47 AM   #722
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2015 doesn't play because he's fat and lazy.
2017 on IR with a knee.
2018 on IR with a knee.
2022 on IR with a back.
2023 on IR with a knee.
2024 can't play because he's not in football shape.

You want a stopgap while Suamataia develops? Fine, but at the very least find someone that's just a bit more dependable.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:58 AM   #723
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Need to stop overpaying our own guys for our success
Mahomes / Reid built a winning culture so our players are mostly all overvalued and over paid.

Just like the coaches from Chiefs / patriots teams. Over valued over promoted and never did much elsewhere.
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As of right now the Chiefs have 175 million dollars in 5 players for next years cap...so without using void years you are talking about a ton of restructuring to create space and you think they're gonna pay money for a LT...right...
As xztop123 pointed out, we need to quit paying our players top of the market contracts. We have $71 million tied up in 3 offensive linemen. I was good with all the contracts but now we also will need to pay a LT too.

We need to cut salary where its going to hurt elsewhere. Like paying Bolton a top $ contract for being a great run stopper. We need LB's with more speed to cover the RB/LB's out of the backfield. FTR, I love Bolton as a player but this is just a cap thing. Just like Reid is still at the top of his game but we need to let him go.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:04 AM   #724
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Let’s also call a spade a spade, Andy Reid knows some Pro Bowl LT isn’t walking through that door this summer and your offense needs to evolve anyways (which should be easy with the amount of quick targets you can throw to Worthy and Rice)

So don’t leave your tackles out to dry all the damn time. EVOLVE with the game. OL play is rough in general right now, you have to help those guys more whether you want to or not.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:05 AM   #725
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At this point I would bet money it’s Cam Robinson. He’s better than what Mahomes has had since Eric Fisher.
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May be a bit of a hot take but I'd heavily sniff around Jedrick Wills as a potential Reclamation. On paper it should be a non starter given the injury problems but I'm not so sure that isn't the Browns being laughably incompetent. Look at what they've done to both Mayfield and Watson.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:12 AM   #727
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Without watching any tape, I do think Wills is somewhat interesting. Watson’s style doesn’t do OL any favors.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:13 AM   #728
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May be a bit of a hot take but I'd heavily sniff around Jedrick Wills as a potential Reclamation. On paper it should be a non starter given the injury problems but I'm not so sure that isn't the Browns being laughably incompetent. Look at what they've done to both Mayfield and Watson.
Former first round pick. Kind of fits Veach's MO. I wouldn't be opposed. They should be turning over every stone they can.
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Robinson did get a lot of heat for performance vs. Jared Verse and that probably isn’t the most fair considering Verse ****ed Mailata up too.

Suffice to say if you play the Rams in the foreseeable future, your OL is going to have their hands full.

All the more reason for us to be investing in DL heavy.
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For the record, definitely not as a plug and play or anything, just get him in the organization and see if he's got anything valuable to offer at one of the four positions. Humphrey is the only player currently on our OL that you can confidently pencil in as a long term player and they really need to get busy backfilling it with talent. Same reason I'd heavily consider Josh Simmons regardless of what happens in the off season. A top 10 OT talent sliding that far isn't going to happen often.
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Robinson did get a lot of heat for performance vs. Jared Verse and that probably isn’t the most fair considering Verse ****ed Mailata up too.
What's the knock on Robinson? If he is being allowed to move on or not resigned?
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What's the knock on Robinson? If he is being allowed to move on or not resigned?
He was a stopgap for Darrisaw.
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Jared Verse had the same amount of pressures as Chris Jones as a rookie. Tied for 4th most in the entire league.

That guy is gonna be the best pass rusher in the NFL soon. No shame for Robinson on that one.
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Vikings have Darrisaw and O'Neill at bookends. There'd be no reason to keep Robinson regardless unless they want to pay him OT money to play G
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So the more I stew on it... yeah I think Veach should and will go the route of Robinson or some other vet on the market. Stanley would be the preference but they aren't going to let him out of the building.

Robinson as an example, that's a guy who can play the position and is durable. 6'6" 335 lbs. He's basically Orlando Brown but a better scheme fit. He isn't going to dominate or beat the elite edge rushers, but who is? (besides Stanley at times)

Maybe you get a decent deal too with his stock lower after the matchup vs. Verse.

But to have LT solved before the draft - and again, it would be because we just need a decent starter - that would be so beneficial entering this draft with the picks we have.

Then you can still develop Kingsley whether it's as T or the next RG, and Wanya can still be the RT of the future.

You go into the draft and go BPA with an intent to stock up your DL and OL. You take CB if another McDuffie/Mitchell/Dejean BPA type is there. You may even go RB in round 2.

All in all, it's a non-overreactionary plan that I believe positions you to still dominate the AFC as you kill so many birds in one offseason.
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