****The Official NEW new new conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Saul Good]

Let's do it.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Why the **** are you bringing me up?

Get a life man.

Gotta cast a wide net.

[Pitt Gorilla]

LOL. Local fans upset that Jack isn't paying enough attention to them.

JACK'S SMACK: Mizzou as SEC champs has a nice ring to it

Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/sports/jacks...#ixzz2mRAq4XxL

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - I posted what I thought was a rather innocuous tweet Saturday night congratulating the Missouri Tigers on their win over Texas A&M. The tweet read “SEC East Champs! Way to go Missouri Tigers. Atlanta here we come!”

I can't believe the hatred and jealousy and vitriol one single tweet could generate. I can only assume many of you still are having a difficult time accepting the fact Missouri defected and left you behind.

The SEC has a very elite selection process in bringing aboard new members. What seems to be most painful to MU detractors is the fact Missouri is enjoying unprecedented success after only two seasons in what is recognized as the best football conference in America.

The mere fact that Missouri has put itself in position to play for a national championship is beyond comprehension for many, including this reporter. I'll never understand all the hostility against this football program.

It’s hard to fathom how a state line can poison so many minds.

Missouri is a really good team. I'm not being biased. It's fact.

The only loss was in double overtime to a top 10 team. The Tigers just took down the Heisman trophy winner.

Regardless of your allegiance and loyalty, it’s difficult to overlook the accomplishments of Missouri this season.

Picked to finish next to last in the division, Mizzou is playing for a prize that few thought would even be possible.

Even for the MU haters, you must admit, “SEC champions” sure has a nice ring to it.

That’s Jack’s Smack.

[Eleazar]

Pretty ironic smack from Jack Harry, who was negative on the SEC thing and has been regarded as an MU hater in the past.

The negative reaction he's getting might be butthurt Big Whatever fans, or it might be MU fans who don't have any use for him any longer.

[Saul Good]

They were probably pissed off that he didn't congratulate Kansas on their third place finish in a basketball tournament played in a hotel conference room. There were several people in attendance...mostly cleaning ladies who were waiting to tidy up for the Avon convention taking place there the next morning.

[warpaint*]

Every fan isn't this way, but to many Saturday represents a real problem for MU haters. If we win we will have won something significant which the school hasn't done in football in most of our lifetimes and in basketball 20 years. The football program will never be viewed the same should we win Sat. We be the first school not among the "Big 6" to have won a SEC title since Kentucky shared one in '76 and outright I think you have to go back to Ole Miss in the early 60's & would represent a tremendous breakthrough that will do wonders for our recruiting, $ support, perception, etc. And if we lose it's no different than Mississippi State, Arkansas, & South Carolina who have all played for and lost SEC title games in the past 2 decades. The game is monumental & that's not even getting into the national implications. The haters won't be able to say we've never won anything. So a bunch of replies like that to Jack Harry ain't all that surprising. I'm guessing a lot of them are scared. IDK if MU is going to win (frankly after all of the disappointments over the years I'll have to see it to believe it) but this team is built to do so. It's built from the inside out rather than the gimmicky video game '07 version which was a very good team & fun to watch but not championship caliber.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

The haters won't be able to say we've never won anything. So a bunch of replies like that to Jack Harry ain't all that surprising. I'm guessing a lot of them are scared.

Well, the haters every step of the way have been naysaying and proven wrong. "Missouri doesn't have any offers", "The SEC doesn't want them", "They won't be able to compete now that they're in the big boy conference", etc. This will be the last of it. Winning the conference ahead of schedule would finally put the argument to bed about whether Missouri belongs with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, etc. Winning the East really puts it to bed, but the loss would remove any cover remaining for haters.

The whole narrative from 810, KU fans, etc., was that we needed the Big 12 more than the Big 12 needed us, that the conference was really upgraded after losing Missouri, Texas A&M, and Nebraska. All of them said we'd be sorry, some said we'd be begging to be let back into the Big 12 in a few years. Now things really are looking like the SEC pillaged the Big 12, especially with the "quality" of the replacement schools.

It's jealousy. Missouri fans have been jealous of other schools' accomplishments in some respects or at some times of the year in the past, that isn't exactly groundbreaking. You can't expect fans whose school didn't get any sniffs in the realignment saga not to feel miffed about it.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Well, the haters every step of the way have been naysaying and proven wrong. "Missouri doesn't have any offers", "The SEC doesn't want them", "They won't be able to compete now that they're in the big boy conference", etc. This will be the last of it. Winning the conference ahead of schedule would finally put the argument to bed about whether Missouri belongs with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, etc. Winning the East really puts it to bed, but the loss would remove any cover remaining for haters.

The whole narrative from 810, KU fans, etc., was that we needed the Big 12 more than the Big 12 needed us, that the conference was really upgraded after losing Missouri, Texas A&M, and Nebraska. All of them said we'd be sorry, some said we'd be begging to be let back into the Big 12 in a few years. Now things really are looking like the SEC pillaged the Big 12, especially with the "quality" of the replacement schools.

It's jealousy. Missouri fans have been jealous of other schools' accomplishments in some respects or at some times of the year in the past, that isn't exactly groundbreaking. You can't expect fans whose school didn't get any sniffs in the realignment saga not to feel miffed about it.

No, the narrative switches to "aTm and Mizzou were bottom tier teams in the Big 12. The SEC is clearly overrated if those two schools win games in their first two years in the conference."

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No, the narrative switches to "aTm and Mizzou were bottom tier teams in the Big 12. The SEC is clearly overrated if those two schools win games in their first two years in the conference."

I don't think people are that stupid/intellectually lazy. MU has been improving for quite a while, even though injuries last year made that more difficult to see. It's pretty clear that this Mizzou team wouldn't have had much trouble in the Big Bevo.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No, the narrative switches to "aTm and Mizzou were bottom tier teams in the Big 12. The SEC is clearly overrated if those two schools win games in their first two years in the conference."

That would be laughable, since half the conference is ranked.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Well, the haters every step of the way have been naysaying and proven wrong. "Missouri doesn't have any offers", "The SEC doesn't want them", "They won't be able to compete now that they're in the big boy conference", etc. This will be the last of it. Winning the conference ahead of schedule would finally put the argument to bed about whether Missouri belongs with Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, etc. Winning the East really puts it to bed, but the loss would remove any cover remaining for haters.

The whole narrative from 810, KU fans, etc., was that we needed the Big 12 more than the Big 12 needed us, that the conference was really upgraded after losing Missouri, Texas A&M, and Nebraska. All of them said we'd be sorry, some said we'd be begging to be let back into the Big 12 in a few years. Now things really are looking like the SEC pillaged the Big 12, especially with the "quality" of the replacement schools.

It's jealousy. Missouri fans have been jealous of other schools' accomplishments in some respects or at some times of the year in the past, that isn't exactly groundbreaking. You can't expect fans whose school didn't get any sniffs in the realignment saga not to feel miffed about it.

No question it's a two way street and human nature.

Also, I think DT is right in that some will attempt to advance that argument but as you said it will be laughable should it come to pass.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No, the narrative switches to "aTm and Mizzou were bottom tier teams in the Big 12. The SEC is clearly overrated if those two schools win games in their first two years in the conference."

I think Ole Miss beating Texas by 1,000 in Austin pretty much drove a stake through the heart of that meme (especially since Texas has gone 7-1 in the Big 12).

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

LOL. Local fans upset that Jack isn't paying enough attention to them.

JACK'S SMACK: Mizzou as SEC champs has a nice ring to it

Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/sports/jacks...#ixzz2mRAq4XxL

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - I posted what I thought was a rather innocuous tweet Saturday night congratulating the Missouri Tigers on their win over Texas A&M. The tweet read “SEC East Champs! Way to go Missouri Tigers. Atlanta here we come!”

I can't believe the hatred and jealousy and vitriol one single tweet could generate. I can only assume many of you still are having a difficult time accepting the fact Missouri defected and left you behind.

The SEC has a very elite selection process in bringing aboard new members. What seems to be most painful to MU detractors is the fact Missouri is enjoying unprecedented success after only two seasons in what is recognized as the best football conference in America.

The mere fact that Missouri has put itself in position to play for a national championship is beyond comprehension for many, including this reporter. I'll never understand all the hostility against this football program.

It’s hard to fathom how a state line can poison so many minds.

Missouri is a really good team. I'm not being biased. It's fact.

The only loss was in double overtime to a top 10 team. The Tigers just took down the Heisman trophy winner.

Regardless of your allegiance and loyalty, it’s difficult to overlook the accomplishments of Missouri this season.

Picked to finish next to last in the division, Mizzou is playing for a prize that few thought would even be possible.

Even for the MU haters, you must admit, “SEC champions” sure has a nice ring to it.

That’s Jack’s Smack.

lol, Jack still can't let KU go.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Every fan isn't this way, but to many Saturday represents a real problem for MU haters. If we win we will have won something significant which the school hasn't done in football in most of our lifetimes and in basketball 20 years. The football program will never be viewed the same should we win Sat. We be the first school not among the "Big 6" to have won a SEC title since Kentucky shared one in '76 and outright I think you have to go back to Ole Miss in the early 60's & would represent a tremendous breakthrough that will do wonders for our recruiting, $ support, perception, etc. And if we lose it's no different than Mississippi State, Arkansas, & South Carolina who have all played for and lost SEC title games in the past 2 decades. The game is monumental & that's not even getting into the national implications. The haters won't be able to say we've never won anything. So a bunch of replies like that to Jack Harry ain't all that surprising. I'm guessing a lot of them are scared. IDK if MU is going to win (frankly after all of the disappointments over the years I'll have to see it to believe it) but this team is built to do so. It's built from the inside out rather than the gimmicky video game '07 version which was a very good team & fun to watch but not championship caliber.

Well if you lose what will you have won?

[Eleazar]

I always find it amusing that the only subject on which MU and KU fans can sit down at the table of brotherhood and agree about is that the on-air personalities at 810 are morons.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Well if you lose what will you have won?

Orange Bowl
Sugar Bowl
Big 8
Big 12 north
SEC east