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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #6661
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The braves made it work. Sure, it's anecdotal evidence, but DM was a part of that equation.
OK. We're in year six, and it hasn't worked here. Plus, there are essentially no answers on the farm. Thus, we have empirical evidence from KC to show that DM made an enormous mistake by sitting on prospects.

If he trades Montgomery, Duffy, Lamb, and Dwyer when they were high-regarded prospects, the Royals are (assuming he doesn't go full Dayton) exponentially better today and for the future.

This organization must stop overvaluing prospects.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:26 PM   #6662
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I don't think he should've traded every single pitching prospect. You know they aren't all going to work out... but you can't assume they are all going to fail too. Trading Montgomery would've been crazy a couple years ago unless you got a true front line pitcher.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:28 PM   #6663
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It's all about self-scouting Deez. you gotta trade the ones you don't think are going to work out while they still have value and keep the ones you think you can bring to the bigs.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:30 PM   #6664
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I don't think he should've traded every single pitching prospect. You know they aren't all going to work out... but you can't assume they are all going to fail too. Trading Montgomery would've been crazy a couple years ago unless you got a true front line pitcher.
That's the plan. Package two of the four plus a filler. What do you think that return would have been? Sizable. That's for damn sure.

Let's pretend that DM truly can evaluate amateur talent, and he simply hasn't been the blind monkey equipped with a strong draft budget and high-round selections: then why can't he evaluate his own young talent in the system and trade off those who look like they'll never produce?

I have a modest theory.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #6665
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It's all about self-scouting Deez. you gotta trade the ones you don't think are going to work out while they still have value and keep the ones you think you can bring to the bigs.
I've never argued against this. The problem is that DM looks in his system and sees nothing but aces and #3 hitters.

See my last post.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:59 PM   #6668
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Abreu wasn't on the 40 man roster. I would assume that is why he got the call up.
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Abreu is no better than Yuni...trading like for the like basically.

Also they made it pretty clear that Yuni wasn't committed to the team so if that's the case, WHY THE **** DID HE START TODAY?!?

This organization never ceases to amaze me...
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Abreu is no better than Yuni...trading like for the like basically.

Also they made it pretty clear that Yuni wasn't committed to the team so if that's the case, WHY THE **** DID HE START TODAY?!?

This organization ceases to amaze me...
Say what? Missed all of this. It was "My Time" to tend to the yard instead of wasting additional time on the Royals.
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Say what? Missed all of this. It was "My Time" to tend to the yard instead of wasting additional time on the Royals.
Yost's comments pretty much made it out that way...talked about how they needed players here committed to winning while explaining why they were getting rid of Yuni. He wanted to play everyday and was told no so if you read between the lines...you could tell that's what was being hinted at...
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Yost's comments pretty much made it out that way...talked about how there were players here committed to winning while explaining why they were getting rid of Yuni. He wanted to play everyday and was told no so if you read between the lines...you could tell that's what was being hinted at...
Wow. I gotta ask: Where in the hell would Betancourt go and play every day?


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