Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

[Carlota69]

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

UPDATE:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Well he can be brought back as a run defender. He's good at that. I dont want to switch. We got a good nucleus.

Again, a pure runstopper isn't what you need for the Tampa 2.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Well look i dont know much about this shit Im just spitballing if you will. I just think Poe and Dorsey can play off each other in 43. I gota research and learn about the techniques. Im not gona try and BS like i know everything. Just trying to throw out a dline theory

I had some discussions with Sorter on Dorsey. I think he could play fine in a 3-technique, but he's studied him enough to say Dorsey has struggled in that role. So he's not an ideal fit for either a 1-gap 3-4 or a 4-3 DT. His value might just be that he's an average rotational 5-technique in a 2-gap defense. Poe can be okay in a 1-technique, but again... that changes him from a game changer to a guy in a more supporting role in a 4-3. It doesn't get the most of his potential.

Hali and Houston would likely do fine in a 4-3. But again, you're talking about two studs in a 3-4 and there's anything but a guarantee they'd come close to matching how good they are. Hali's history is that he has been significantly better in a 3-4.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Jackson doesnt do much for me. But he was making some plays unlike Dorsey. Though i like dorsey in the 43

I think Tyson Jackson could play in a 40 front. I'd like to see him 1-gap just to see what he can do.

[Mother****erJones]

If we stick in the 34 we have to have an attacking one. Not this read and react shit. It doesnt work. Only worked for RAC because they were cheating in New England

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Denver style 4-3??

Jackson-Poe-Dorsey-Hali

Houston(Von's role)-MLB-DJ

Just throwing shit out there.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by PGM

Denver style 4-3??

Jackson-Poe-Dorsey-Hali

Houston(Von's role)-MLB-DJ

Just throwing shit out there.

Now that I could get into...

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...2-99da574ef4e9

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd think all of this happening= Bowe, albert and colquitt re signing?

If the front office "Dorsey" signs....I can't imagine this not happening...along with some pretty dang exciting off-season FA acquisitions.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

If we stick in the 34 we have to have an attacking one. Not this read and react shit. It doesnt work. Only worked for RAC because they were cheating in New England

My biggest fear is that instead of keeping the 3-4 and ditching the 2-gap, we are gonna ditch the 3-4 and KEEP the 2-gap.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I had some discussions with Sorter on Dorsey. I think he could play fine in a 3-technique, but he's studied him enough to say Dorsey has struggled in that role. So he's not an ideal fit for either a 1-gap 3-4 or a 4-3 DT. His value might just be that he's an average rotational 5-technique in a 2-gap defense. Poe can be okay in a 1-technique, but again... that changes him from a game changer to a guy in a more supporting role in a 4-3. It doesn't get the most of his potential.

Hali and Houston would likely do fine in a 4-3. But again, you're talking about two studs in a 3-4 and there's anything but a guarantee they'd come close to matching how good they are. Hali's history is that he has been significantly better in a 3-4.

I gotcha man. Just dont wana switch D aligments but **** it Reid's been successful. Get another good DC

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

If we stick in the 34 we have to have an attacking one. Not this read and react shit. It doesnt work. Only worked for RAC because they were cheating in New England

We all agree on that. Ray Horton, Ron Rivera, Reggie Herring run a more 1-gap style of a 3-4. That's a far easier change to make. Really the two critical pieces there are 3-technique DEs, which are not impossible to find. And hell, Dorsey and Bailey might be okay to do that already.

[hometeam]

I think the fact we have no LB's for 4-3 says we stay 3-4.

yes DJ can play OLB, but other than that when we move Hali/Houston up we have a bunch of scrubs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Now that I could get into...

Yeah, that's about the best I can come up with if they do have to switch.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

I gotcha man. Just dont wana switch D aligments but **** it Reid's been successful. Get another good DC

Reid hasn't been successful on defense. Jim Johnson was a defensive mastermind and the architect of Reid's successful defense in the early decade. Since he died, the Eagles' defense has struggled. Reid's defense has ranked outside the top 15 and he's fired 2 DCs in 4 years (his final Bowles, was so bad, he deserved to be the 3rd guy fired). Not a good track record.

Again, it's why I don't want Reid deciding what defense we run. He doesn't know what his defensive identity is, other than he wants an attacking defense that will probably never live up to the unbelievably brilliant scheme his DC ran years ago.

[NJChiefsFan]

For those that want to switch or at least are OK with the 43, who are we putting next to DJ? We need 2 LB's if we switch to a 43.

I don't really worry about Tamba or Houston producing pressure-wise in a 43. I do however think they are both great in a 34 and wonder if they will be that good in the 43.