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Old 12-15-2024, 04:22 PM  
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Playcalling is not the issue
Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:13 PM   #46
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What difference does it make? Ask Mahomes tomorrow while he's getting an MRI.
Playcalling is not why the offense sucks this year. End of story.
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:14 PM   #47
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Oh I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t think anyone thinks are tackle play has been good.
I thought Tuney played damn good at LT today.
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:16 PM   #48
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I thought Tuney played damn good at LT today.
He did well for what was asked of him. Need a lot of help, as would anyone with 95
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:17 PM   #49
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What difference does it make? Ask Mahomes tomorrow while he's getting an MRI.
I literally shut the audio off at one point and started playing S&G’s Sounds of Silence.

This was before the MVPat injury, btw.
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:41 PM   #50
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Mahomes has played poorly. There’s no doubt.

But he rarely has a clean pocket and even when he does, forgive the guy for feeling quick pressure - real or imagined - because it’s beyond the norm rather than the exception.

It’s impossible to run a high level offense with this OL play. We’re skating by because Mahomes is Mahomes.
Right. Mahomes had his LT get pushed into him by Garrett and bumped out of the pocket to make a play. I still expect the playoffs to go differently.
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Old 12-15-2024, 06:44 PM   #51
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Did anyone else catch on the broadcast that connecting on the deep ball was a big emphasis in practice and this week’s gameplan?
I wonder if they emphasized Mahomes overthrowing the receiver by 10 yards.
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Old 12-15-2024, 07:11 PM   #52
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Imaging practicing the deep ball in week 15 with a guard playing left tackle against arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL whose arms look like implants when they have a whole week, to you know…practice the deep ball against our really good defense
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Old 12-15-2024, 07:25 PM   #53
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Mahomes has had all season to get right on his deep balls. He's still not even close on those. Can we win a 3peat without throwing the ball deep?
No explosive running plays either.
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Old 12-15-2024, 08:05 PM   #54
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I’d argue the plays are going to be there at this point. Secondaries are going to date Pat to hit them until they get burned for it.
He can't hit the broad side of the barn, why wouldn't they.
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Old 12-15-2024, 08:06 PM   #55
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Watch some other qbs.

Guys stand in and make throws with pressure.

Hell I thought Wentz looked immediately less rattled than Pat does
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Watch some other qbs.

Guys stand in and make throws with pressure.

Hell I thought Wentz looked immediately less rattled than Pat does
I imagine that's because Wentz hasn't been hit 69000 times this season
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Tackles do suck but nobody watching can actually say we should 3 series in any game and ignore running at all. It's stupid when you consider our personnel.
We’re up 21-7 with ball and 50 seconds to go in the thrid quarter, and we couldn’t even run out the third quarter. That’s play calling. 3 consecutive incomplete passes. What the heck are we passing there for? RRR punt, at least you eat more clock. Then, why are we going for it on 4rth down and still that 14 point lead, as if our offense has been clicking. We must punt there, pin them deep. Instead, good field position given up. I suppose our OC/HC said, it’s just the Browns and we can count on them to turn it over again.
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Old 12-15-2024, 08:20 PM   #58
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he is under pressure constantly....

did you watch the game?

most of the plays the line is getting pushed back with zero time to drop back...

It's genuinely stunning that "fans" can't understand that this goes both ways. better line play , better WR play , better TE play will all build on each other and QB play. it's a system and all connected. Yes it's malfunctioning but it can't be pinned in one guy

for example the TE blocking was garbage today... etc
And yet, with a 14 point lead, we kept calling pass plays, putting him in harms way until he got hurt.
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Yes it is. It absolutely is.

How much innovation have we seen this year? I don’t care about “saving shit for the playoffs”. We are running the same playcalls from years past and defenses are easily covering it.

It’s not just the shovel pass. I’m a fan and I immediately remember these playcalls and I don’t even watch extensive film, stance patterns, lineup giveaways/hints anything.

Andy needs to do something. If it’s not Nagy then fine. The playcalling is stale and he’s falling into bad Andy again that never runs the ball.
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Mahomes has 16 TD and 3 INT in his last 8 games.

If that's "poor" we are truly spoiled.

The Chiefs task was to survive the last two games against two of the deadliest pass rushes in the NFL. They were never expected to flourish.

They passed that shit with flying colors. The defense held up their end and the offense did what was required to win.

Onwards and upwards.
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