Chiefs Cleveland Browns and Alex Smith? A closer look -- Terry Pluto - Page 4

oaklandhater · 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index...x_smith_a.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As if the Cleveland Browns needed another reason to go after Alex Smith, consider this from Profootballfocus:

"One of the surprises of the season, Smith became the league's most efficient deep thrower, finishing first in adjusted completion percentage and yards while tying for first with 12 touchdowns.

"After generally ranking near the bottom in deep passing attempts in years past, a more aggressive approach had Smith ranked 11th with 12.3 percent of his attempts going deep this season. All told, it helped to pay off as he posted a career-high PFF grade."

I've always considered Smith a "game manager" style quarterback who also has the ability to run for first downs.

At best, I thought his arm strength was average.

Maybe it's average -- but he's finding ways to get the ball downfield to open receivers.

Of course, the Browns would have to secure some better receivers -- another job for new general manager John Dorsey.

It's common knowledge Dorsey likes the 33-year-old Smith. Trading for the veteran quarterback was one of his first moves after taking over the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013.

The Chiefs season ended Saturday after they blew a 21-3 lead to the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wild Card game. The Titans came back to win, 22-21.

Had the Chiefs advanced deep into the playoffs, they probably would have been more likely to keep Smith.

Instead, they might turn to Patrick Mahomes. He was picked No. 10 in the 2017 draft ... by Dorsey. That was a month before he was fired as general manager of the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have Smith under contract for 2018 for $17 million. Kansas City also has some salary cap problems, another reason Smith could be traded.

Given the Browns have more than $100 million of salary cap room, that's no barrier for them.

The question would be what type of draft picks the Chiefs would want in return.

And Browns fans know, their favorite team has oodles of picks -- including three in the second round of 2018.

WHY SMITH?

Some things to consider about Smith:

1. He is the anti-DeShone Kizer. In the last three years covering 46 games, he has thrown 20 interceptions. Kizer threw 21 interceptions in 15 games this season.

2. Smith has lost six fumbles in the last four years. Kizer lost six fumbles in 15 games this season.

3. Smith has a 50-26 record in five years with the Chiefs. For his career, he is 88-62-1. Is he great? No. Can he win a lot of regular season games? Absolutely!

4. Besides the money, why would the Chiefs deal Smith? He's had problems in the playoffs. He is 1-4 in the postseason. He's not played that poorly: 65 percent completions, nine TDs compared to two interceptions in five games. But the

could not make a real Super Bowl run.

5. Smith has become a victim of rising expectations in Kansas City. The Chiefs were 2-14 the season before he arrived. He helped turn them into a playoff team. But the goal is the Super Bowl, and January has been a cruel month for the Chiefs because of the playoffs.

6. Smith is very durable. He has missed only four games in five years with the Chiefs.

7. Smith would give the Browns an experienced, smart quarterback who is coming off the best season of his 12-year career. The Browns have not had a player like him since they returned in 1999.

8. Turnovers destroyed the Browns in several games last season. Adding Smith would cut them dramatically.

9. Several teams will be after Smith. Possible places for him include Denver, Arizona, the New York Jets and perhaps Jacksonville or Buffalo.

10. The more you look at Smith and how he fits with the Browns, the more attractive he becomes in an orange helmet.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-11-2018, 05:29 PM

Not surprised this is coming from OP

Reerun_KC · 01-11-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

This would be epic can you imagine donk fans defending Smith?
Unleash hundreds of Tigers on the mange.

Probably would be the first time in history that Chiefs and Bronco fans would unite. Dude would get crushed.

oaklandhater · 01-11-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

Not surprised this is coming from OP

incoming Crybaby shitpost.

RunKC · 01-11-2018, 06:52 PM

Alex would have more talent surrounding him in Cleveland than KC.

OL=Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Kevin Zietler and JC Tretter.
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
David Njoku

You’re probably going to get Saquon Barkley too.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-11-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

SF to KC to CLE.

That's a downward trajectory if I've ever seen one.

At this rate, he will retire in Pile high

BryanBusby · 01-11-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Alex would have more talent surrounding him in Cleveland than KC.

OL=Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Kevin Zietler and JC Tretter.
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
David Njoku

You’re probably going to get Saquon Barkley too.

Do you really believe that Dorsey would ever spend a top 5 picl for a RB?

Sandy Vagina · 01-11-2018, 07:32 PM

Would love to see Cleveland draft Derrius Guice, if they do sign Alex.

**Easy 6** · 01-11-2018, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

KC fans invading their board to warn them about Smith...

Those guys are shit stirring assholes pumping themselves up like bargain basement Schefters saying I told you so

If the Browns wanna climb out of the gutter, while building for the future... Smith is the way to go

Cleveland hasnt done DICK in forever, .500 is not beneath them

Sandy Vagina · 01-11-2018, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Those guys are shit stirring assholes looking to pump themselves up like bargain basement Schefters saying I told you so

If the Browns wanna climb out of the gutter, while building for the future... Smith is the way to go

Those guys havent done DICK in forever, but now .500 is beneath them

I'd be shocked if there were not already several here that have gone to other team boards to set the stage. If not yet, they will.

Trent Green GOAT · 01-11-2018, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Alex would have more talent surrounding him in Cleveland than KC.

OL=Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Kevin Zietler and JC Tretter.
Josh Gordon
Corey Coleman
David Njoku

You’re probably going to get Saquon Barkley too.

Ya, I don't buy that for a second. That offense was atrocious last year with "All that talent". Josh Gordon is a total stud, but Coleman and njoku aren't even close to hill and kelce. Also hunt is much better than any RB they have.

RunKC · 01-11-2018, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Do you really believe that Dorsey would ever spend a top 5 picl for a RB?

For Saquon Barkley? Yes

Hog's Gone Fishin · 01-11-2018, 07:56 PM

It would be nice if we could deal him for a really good WR as well as a draft pick. Mahomes needs another WR. Gordon would be a sweet addition and Dorsey might be willing to part with a potential headache.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-11-2018, 07:58 PM

I think whoever trades for Alex will be giving him a 3-year extension, so if it's CLE I think they aren't drafting a QB. Which might be the right call this year...

Hog's Gone Fishin · 01-11-2018, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I think whoever trades for Alex will be giving him a 3-year extension, so if it's CLE I think they aren't drafting a QB. Which might be the right call this year...

Cleveland would be retarted not to draft a QB with the talent available this year while having #1 and #4 .Hell, they should draft two and skip smith.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-11-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Cleveland would be retarted not to draft a QB with the talent available this year while having #1 and #4 .Hell, they should draft two and skip smith.

I'm not saying that they should or shouldn't draft one, I'm just expecting that whoever trades for Smith will extend him and use him for a few years. If that's the case, and CLE plans to draft a QB early, then they aren't a logical destination for Smith.

01-11-2018, 03:37 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5908993	Cleveland Browns and Alex Smith? A closer look -- Terry Pluto http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index...x_smith_a.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As if the Cleveland Browns needed another reason to go after Alex Smith, consider this from Profootballfocus: "One of the surprises of the season, Smith became the league's most efficient deep thrower, finishing first in adjusted completion percentage and yards while tying for first with 12 touchdowns. "After generally ranking near the bottom in deep passing attempts in years past, a more aggressive approach had Smith ranked 11th with 12.3 percent of his attempts going deep this season. All told, it helped to pay off as he posted a career-high PFF grade." I've always considered Smith a "game manager" style quarterback who also has the ability to run for first downs. At best, I thought his arm strength was average. Maybe it's average -- but he's finding ways to get the ball downfield to open receivers. Of course, the Browns would have to secure some better receivers -- another job for new general manager John Dorsey. It's common knowledge Dorsey likes the 33-year-old Smith. Trading for the veteran quarterback was one of his first moves after taking over the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013. The Chiefs season ended Saturday after they blew a 21-3 lead to the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wild Card game. The Titans came back to win, 22-21. Had the Chiefs advanced deep into the playoffs, they probably would have been more likely to keep Smith. Instead, they might turn to Patrick Mahomes. He was picked No. 10 in the 2017 draft ... by Dorsey. That was a month before he was fired as general manager of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have Smith under contract for 2018 for $17 million. Kansas City also has some salary cap problems, another reason Smith could be traded. Given the Browns have more than $100 million of salary cap room, that's no barrier for them. The question would be what type of draft picks the Chiefs would want in return. And Browns fans know, their favorite team has oodles of picks -- including three in the second round of 2018. WHY SMITH? Some things to consider about Smith: 1. He is the anti-DeShone Kizer. In the last three years covering 46 games, he has thrown 20 interceptions. Kizer threw 21 interceptions in 15 games this season. 2. Smith has lost six fumbles in the last four years. Kizer lost six fumbles in 15 games this season. 3. Smith has a 50-26 record in five years with the Chiefs. For his career, he is 88-62-1. Is he great? No. Can he win a lot of regular season games? Absolutely! 4. Besides the money, why would the Chiefs deal Smith? He's had problems in the playoffs. He is 1-4 in the postseason. He's not played that poorly: 65 percent completions, nine TDs compared to two interceptions in five games. But the could not make a real Super Bowl run. 5. Smith has become a victim of rising expectations in Kansas City. The Chiefs were 2-14 the season before he arrived. He helped turn them into a playoff team. But the goal is the Super Bowl, and January has been a cruel month for the Chiefs because of the playoffs. 6. Smith is very durable. He has missed only four games in five years with the Chiefs. 7. Smith would give the Browns an experienced, smart quarterback who is coming off the best season of his 12-year career. The Browns have not had a player like him since they returned in 1999. 8. Turnovers destroyed the Browns in several games last season. Adding Smith would cut them dramatically. 9. Several teams will be after Smith. Possible places for him include Denver, Arizona, the New York Jets and perhaps Jacksonville or Buffalo. 10. The more you look at Smith and how he fits with the Browns, the more attractive he becomes in an orange helmet.
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