New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

sniff sniff.....you hurted my feelings DJ. You're mean.

[baitism]

Originally Posted by tk13

They definitely have an advantage though in Dallas over being in the middle of nowhere Lubbock. Nothing against Lubbock, but that might have helped keep the Big XII together. Didn't seem like too many of those west coast schools or alumni liked the idea of having to travel to Lubbock or Stillwater every year.

I get that and that is a benefit. I do think that having 'Christian' in your colleges name is going to turn off a decent amount of recruits.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by baitism

I get that and that is a benefit. I do think that having 'Christian' in your colleges name is going to turn off a decent amount of recruits.

I bet quite a few don't know what TCU stands for. AT any rate, I'm guessing if it is an issue, TCU wouldn't want them anyhow.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by baitism

I get that and that is a benefit. I do think that having 'Christian' in your colleges name is going to turn off a decent amount of recruits.

Because there's so many Jewish football players?

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mikey is less intelligent, more inbred version of Wickedson.

Counting above 5 isn't a strength of his.

wow, you're a little punk ass bitch today

Try not and be so angry.

Maybe you'll pick up some friends along the way

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kstater

Because there's so many Jewish football players?

Because Turner Gill's done such a fine job of getting top shelf talent.

Baylor's been awful forever. BYU can't seem to sustain success. Even Notre Dame is struggling, though I would imagine that's due to academic standards more than anything.

I'm not saying it's a lock that the religious angle drives recruits away, but I've always though it was an interesting question. Some recruits, kids like Brad Smith and RGIII (and of course Tebow) are pretty up front about their religion, but I think a lot more are going to just shy away from it being put in front of them like that.

Think of it this way - how many 'regional' Universities are considered to be terribly prestigious? Not many, that's largely what fueled SMS to change its name to Missouri State. It's not a perfect analogue, but its similar - there's something to a school's name. Even if its only subconsciously, I do believe there are some good recruits that would pass on TCU because of the religious affiliation.

They'll be a very interesting case study.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

wow, you're a little punk ass bitch today

Try not and be so angry.

Maybe you'll pick up some friends along the way

Is this when you'll remind us all of the fabled Wickedson 21?

Besides, I said nice things about Pants and Saulbadguy and they get to sit at a much cooler table than you do, so blow me.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

comparatively, it's kind of pathetic considering missouri's population is nealry double that of kansas, and the issue of 2 BCS schools instead of one.

By comparison to other states its size Missouri should have all kinds of conference titles, national titles, final fours, bcs games, hall of famers, etc etc

except they have pretty much none of that.

I've been studying the phenomenon for nearly 30 years now and can't figure it out.

It's actually quite impressive.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is this when you'll remind us all of the fabled Wickedson 21?

Besides, I said nice things about Pants and Saulbadguy and they get to sit at a much cooler table than you do, so blow me.

whatever dude.

you win, congrats

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because Turner Gill's done such a fine job of getting top shelf talent.

Baylor's been awful forever. BYU can't seem to sustain success. Even Notre Dame is struggling, though I would imagine that's due to academic standards more than anything.

I'm not saying it's a lock that the religious angle drives recruits away, but I've always though it was an interesting question. Some recruits, kids like Brad Smith and RGIII (and of course Tebow) are pretty up front about their religion, but I think a lot more are going to just shy away from it being put in front of them like that.

Think of it this way - how many 'regional' Universities are considered to be terribly prestigious? Not many, that's largely what fueled SMS to change its name to Missouri State. It's not a perfect analogue, but its similar - there's something to a school's name. Even if its only subconsciously, I do believe there are some good recruits that would pass on TCU because of the religious affiliation.

They'll be a very interesting case study.

in other news, water is wet.

recruits also pass on schools like KSU because of location. recruits pass on schools like Wisconsin because of weather.

[baitism]

Originally Posted by kstater

Because there's so many Jewish football players?

Just because I am a christian doesn't mean I want to go to a religious college....

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by kstater

Because there's so many Jewish football players?

Or ridiculous honor codes that necessitates expelling a student for perfectly natural human behavior right before a national tournament.

[evenfall]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Or ridiculous honor codes that necessitates expelling a student for perfectly natural human behavior right before a national tournament.

That isn't fair, they still let Ell Roberson play in that game.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because Turner Gill's done such a fine job of getting top shelf talent.

Baylor's been awful forever. BYU can't seem to sustain success. Even Notre Dame is struggling, though I would imagine that's due to academic standards more than anything.

I'm not saying it's a lock that the religious angle drives recruits away, but I've always though it was an interesting question. Some recruits, kids like Brad Smith and RGIII (and of course Tebow) are pretty up front about their religion, but I think a lot more are going to just shy away from it being put in front of them like that.

Think of it this way - how many 'regional' Universities are considered to be terribly prestigious? Not many, that's largely what fueled SMS to change its name to Missouri State. It's not a perfect analogue, but its similar - there's something to a school's name. Even if its only subconsciously, I do believe there are some good recruits that would pass on TCU because of the religious affiliation.

They'll be a very interesting case study.

Wow.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Wow.

Wow. Wow.