The Bills take the AFC this seasom

[JustDíqLix]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Forgive me if it was already posted but Nick Wright had a fantastic rant on his podcast yesterday re: the best QB in the league debate that has surfaced again. Worth your time if you find it on YT, podcast channel, etc. (Can't link right now myself).

What I love about it is when people keep going back to this well of doubting Mahomes and the Chiefs, I think it only does us favors. You'd think haters would have learned from the Patriots years, doubting a team like that is the worst thing you can do. Pissing them off is not going to help your chances of defeating them (thanks, Justin Tucker).

But getting back to the main point, it's exhausting the lengths people will go to in order to discredit what Mahomes has done. People are so desperate for something fresh and new that it makes them reeruned in their analysis of the current landscape, the Chiefs in particular.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Bills fans always assume if they, someday, get back to a SB...they will automatically win it. Like getting past Mahomes is their only obstacle.

Wouldn't losing 5 SB's be a record? Careful what you wish for....

In a row? I believe so. Overall? Nope as I believe Denver has 5 of them.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Forgive me if it was already posted but Nick Wright had a fantastic rant on his podcast yesterday re: the best QB in the league debate that has surfaced again. Worth your time if you find it on YT, podcast channel, etc. (Can't link right now myself).

What I love about it is when people keep going back to this well of doubting Mahomes and the Chiefs, I think it only does us favors. You'd think haters would have learned from the Patriots years, doubting a team like that is the worst thing you can do. Pissing them off is not going to help your chances of defeating them (thanks, Justin Tucker).

But getting back to the main point, it's exhausting the lengths people will go to in order to discredit what Mahomes has done. People are so desperate for something fresh and new that it makes them reeruned in their analysis of the current landscape, the Chiefs in particular.

This happened all the time when Brady was the guy 10+ years ago. Bottomline Mahomes has the hardware.

Don’t really see the problem with saying Josh Allen is a great QB though. Every generation of QB’s has those guys. He’s probably going to be Peyton Manning while Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this generation.

He’ll probably win 1 ring eventually but I’d project that Mahomes will win at least 2 more making 5 total

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This happened all the time when Brady was the guy 10+ years ago. Bottomline Mahomes has the hardware.

Don’t really see the problem with saying Josh Allen is a great QB though. Every generation of QB’s has those guys. He’s probably going to be Peyton Manning while Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this generation.

He’ll probably win 1 ring eventually but I’d project that Mahomes will win at least 2 more making 5 total

I think Allen is phenomenal - I said he was QB2 before the year started, IDC how many MVPs Lamar had, Allen was the guy you feared playing most.

But there should be a clear delineation between Allen being the 2024 season MVP and Allen being the best in the world, period. From a Bills fan, fine. They're loyal to their guy and it'll always be that way. And the vitriol is heightened as KC also is the reason they haven't made a SB.

If you claim to be an independent NFL analyst? Just stop. He's not there yet and won't be anytime soon.

The best game of his career is a playoff loss to Mahomes!

[O.city]

Allen is really good. He's up there with Mahomes physically, just doesn't have the accolades.

Until he wins some big games, he's below him.

Manning was better than Brady, but that's a whole other discussion.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

Allen is really good. He's up there with Mahomes physically, just doesn't have the accolades.

Until he wins some big games, he's below him.

Manning was better than Brady, but that's a whole other discussion.

I used to think that too but IDK, Manning had some pretty low playoff moments and the numbers back it. Like his production definitely dipped.

Then you have Mahomes whose playoff stats and record is that of a unanimous NFL MVP. In the biggest games and against the best opponents. It's not talked about enough because people are already tired of him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I used to think that too but IDK, Manning had some pretty low playoff moments and the numbers back it. Like his production definitely dipped.

Then you have Mahomes whose playoff stats and record is that of a unanimous NFL MVP. In the biggest games and against the best opponents. It's not talked about enough because people are already tired of him.

Plus Manning had Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James for a long time. Brady had to make do with lesser skill players for most of his career.

[RunKC]

This is more of a discussion of QB’s after Mahomes. This year has solidified Allen as QB2 and it’s not close. None of us would take Burrow or Lamar or Stroud or anyone over him if Mahomes wasn’t an option.

And he may be the most talented QB ever due to his legs. He’s certainly up there.

If he ends up being Dan Marino/Charles Barkley then that’s still a HOF player and one of the best, most talented QB’s ever. I think people place team success on QB’s too much. We all know the Brady morons do this for SB55 when it was clearly not Mahomes fault.

Allen will win MVP this year and he deserves it. But he’s gotta beat Mahomes at some point if he wants to ever win a ring.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Plus Manning had Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James for a long time. Brady had to make do with lesser skill players for most of his career.

And ****ing Reggie Wayne as WR2

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Plus Manning had Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James for a long time. Brady had to make do with lesser skill players for most of his career.

Brady had elite defenses nearly every year he won a ring. Brady won SB’s the way Mahomes did last year which is why I don’t like this argument. He had a top 10 defense 15 out the 21 seasons he played and he didn’t win shit in the 6 without them.

The defense carried Brady his first 3 rings. They literally won him a SB over Seattle at the end of the game, they only allowed 21 points to the MVP QB and shut the Falcons out entirely in the 2nd half and his TB defense applied the best pressure rate on a QB in SB history.

The guy rarely had to do much offensively while Manning consistently had to put up tons of points to even have a chance.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I used to think that too but IDK, Manning had some pretty low playoff moments and the numbers back it. Like his production definitely dipped.

Then you have Mahomes whose playoff stats and record is that of a unanimous NFL MVP. In the biggest games and against the best opponents. It's not talked about enough because people are already tired of him.

Peyton Manning was carried by defense to both of his rings. Very low passer rating in the Playoffs for both 2006 & 2015 seasons. In the Playoffs for 2006, Peyton had 3 TD and 7 INT. Hard to believe the Colts won it all that year with the QB turning the ball over so much. His brother was actually better than him in the Playoffs.

[irafreak]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This is more of a discussion of QB’s after Mahomes. This year has solidified Allen as QB2 and it’s not close. None of us would take Burrow or Lamar or Stroud or anyone over him if Mahomes wasn’t an option.

And he may be the most talented QB ever due to his legs. He’s certainly up there.

If he ends up being Dan Marino/Charles Barkley then that’s still a HOF player and one of the best, most talented QB’s ever. I think people place team success on QB’s too much. We all know the Brady morons do this for SB55 when it was clearly not Mahomes fault.

Allen will win MVP this year and he deserves it. But he’s gotta beat Mahomes at some point if he wants to ever win a ring.

Well technically the chiefs could at some point lose a divisional or wildcard round game and Allen never even plays him in the afc championship...

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by tredadda

In a row? I believe so. Overall? Nope as I believe Denver has 5 of them.

New England has also lost 5.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

And here's the thing.

"It's not his fault he lost"

It never is, man. And that's why I can't give a shit about Josh Allen no matter how spectacular he looks.

We do this stupid shit every year. Bills warm the hearts and vaginas of every casual NFL fan and become the popular SB pick by season's end, Josh looks great in the playoff game, and the Bills lose. It's not Josh's fault, and that fact is made known by EVERYBODY in the media. It's shouted out loudly and frequently. Some might even say it's shoved down our throats. "Not Allen's fault! Not Allen's fault!"

Enough with the crocodile tears. I don't care. I never did care, and I ESPECIALLY don't care now that he's getting older as a player. Let me know when Josh gets an actual signature win and slays an actual dragon. I figure he'll do it eventually, but thus far for being so goddamn great I haven't seen it yet.

Sorry, but dramatic impressive losses in the playoffs don't do it for me. He's way closer to Justin Herbert than he is Patrick Mahomes

And with the ultimate chance to slay the dragon, on his home field he managed to drive them just far enough to (after playing hero scramble and fumbling - which Chamarri Conner failed to just fall on) allow a risky 40 yard FG.

He’s one of the top 4/5 players in the league. He’s just not Mahomes.

[DRM08]

ESPN is predicting Baltimore to beat KC in Playoffs and Buffalo to win the Super Bowl. Gonna be hilarious if they are wrong.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-59-2025-draft