Walt Disney World

[Brianfo]

My wife and I will be taking 2 small children to Walt Disney World in Florida in 2 weeks. I get to go as a bonus thru my work. We are staying at the Hilton. My question is what is the weather like down there in January? Any good ideas on what to see and do with twins that are 2 years old? I am kind of looking forward to it. A chance to get out of Iowa in January. Oh well, enought blabbing. Any responses are greatly appreciated.

[Mosbonian]

Trust me guys...there is still a way to beat even the new system.

For those who have been lately....how did you like using the new bracelet?

[God of Thunder]

Trust me guys. There is not a way to beat the new system. WDW closed all loop holes around a month ago. Not to mention all the old FP machines are now covered.

Source: I own DVC and have been to Disney Parks over 50 times.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by God of Thunder

Trust me guys. There is not a way to beat the new system. WDW closed all loop holes around a month ago. Not to mention all the old FP machines are now covered.

Source: I own DVC and have been to Disney Parks over 50 times.

If you think real hard, yes there is still a way.

Source: I don't own DVC but I have been to Disney over 50 times and that's not counting all the times I have been there for business conventions, one of which was no less than a month ago.

[God of Thunder]

I can assure you - there is not. I am familiar with every loop hole this system has had. Including that two months ago you could insert ANY card that had a magnetic strip and receive a fast pass.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by God of Thunder

I can assure you - there is not. I am familiar with every loop hole this system has had. Including that two months ago you could insert ANY card that had a magnetic strip and receive a fast pass.

Think Guest Assistance Card....and yes I am very aware of the change in the system for GAC. Since I have a Special Needs son I make sure I am very aware...

But, all you have to do is go to Dis.com and see how all the others figure ways around the system.

[God of Thunder]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Think Guest Assistance Card....

Are you honestly saying that a GAC is a workaround for FP+??? If you have a legitimate reason for a GAC, then that's one thing. Even now, at the current time, GACs are not allowed to bypass attraction queues.

The new policy for GAC is that one guest from the party is to wait in the queue and once they arrive, the rest of the party is brought through the exit.

[Deberg_1990]

I wonder how Long it is before Disney starts charging extra for Fast passes like Six Flags, Universal, and Sea World do?


They have to be leaving money on the table. Or maybe that's why resort guests get first dibs?

[God of Thunder]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I wonder how Long it is before Disney starts charging extra for Fast passes like Six Flags, Universal, and Sea World do?


They have to be leaving money on the table.

Rumors are - that it's right around the corner.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by God of Thunder

Are you honestly saying that a GAC is a workaround for FP+??? If you have a legitimate reason for a GAC, then that's one thing. Even now, at the current time, GACs are not allowed to bypass attraction queues.

The new policy for GAC is that one guest from the party is to wait in the queue and once they arrive, the rest of the party is brought through the exit.

You said there is NO WAY around the system....I showed there was. You didn't place parameters.

And BTW, if you think that the policy is completely enforced at each attraction every day faithfully by Cast Members then you should know better.

FP+ is how they control the majority of the normal visiting public. Are you saying that in the case of a Special Needs they make someone from the family wait in line and when they get to the front of the line they let the rest of the family in? Because it ain't working that way.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I wonder how Long it is before Disney starts charging extra for Fast passes like Six Flags, Universal, and Sea World do?


They have to be leaving money on the table. Or maybe that's why resort guests get first dibs?

Talk has been around for sometime of allowing tiered Fast Pass beyond the normal policy, but they have never been able how to figure out how not to piss off those people who can barely afford park tickets now.

I don't see Disney doing pay-per-Fast Pass anytime soon contrary to what GoT says. Disney needs attendance to stay at high levels to help pay for the updates to the Parks. You start making people pay for the privilege of riding and watch how park attendance drops.

Of course that is what DVC members would love to see, since they see themselves as privileged.

[God of Thunder]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Talk has been around for sometime of allowing tiered Fast Pass beyond the normal policy, but they have never been able how to figure out how not to piss off those people who can barely afford park tickets now.

I don't see Disney doing pay-per-Fast Pass anytime soon contrary to what GoT says. Disney needs attendance to stay at high levels to help pay for the updates to the Parks. You start making people pay for the privilege of riding and watch how park attendance drops.

Of course that is what DVC members would love to see, since they see themselves as privileged.

Universal has had people pay for their Express Pass since day 1 and their numbers have constantly increased year to year. Disney is a business, their goal is to make money.

I have no concrete information as to whether it'll happen or not, but it wouldn't shock me. As a shareholder, i'd love to see them charge more for everything.

DVC members don't care about park attendance.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by God of Thunder

Universal has had people pay for their Express Pass since day 1 and their numbers have constantly increased year to year. Disney is a business, their goal is to make money.

I have no concrete information as to whether it'll happen or not, but it wouldn't shock me. As a shareholder, i'd love to see them charge more for everything.

DVC members don't care about park attendance.

That Harry Potter stuff saved Universal IMO. Attendance has skyrocketed with that.

[God of Thunder]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

That Harry Potter stuff saved Universal IMO. Attendance has skyrocketed with that.

Harry Potter is INCREDIBLE. I can't wait to see Diagon Alley later this year.

[Deberg_1990]

Any plans to do the Fastpass+ At Disney California? That's where I'm headed this summer sometime.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by God of Thunder

Universal has had people pay for their Express Pass since day 1 and their numbers have constantly increased year to year. Disney is a business, their goal is to make money.

I have no concrete information as to whether it'll happen or not, but it wouldn't shock me. As a shareholder, i'd love to see them charge more for everything.

As a shareholder your concern should be that Disney holds down expenses to bring better profitability. It isn't the park that needs to perform better, it's the media division outside of ESPN. It's dragging the numbers down...

And, while Universal has had growing attendance, (as has Disney) it doesn't really mean that more people are paying for their Express Pass. I would have to see their numbers before I would acknowledge that charging for Fast Pass makes sense. Universal may have growing attendance but that doesn't mean more people are paying for Express Pass.

And....the option I use to avoid the new Fast Pass, one you aren't thinking of.....go to the Park at times that you don't need them. You as a DVC member should know that if you go at certain times of the year you can pretty much walk right up to most all the attractions but Space Mountain, Splash Mountain and Thunder Railroad at MK, Star Wars in DS, It's Bug's Life and Kilimanjaro Safari in AK and Soarin' and Test Track in EPCOT.