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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:45 AM   #4996
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OC'S come and go under Andy, that is not going to matter. Spags will but given the amount they pay for DC, having autonomy, and high profile position...Andy will be able to find a quality DC.
While I don't disagree... it creates a year of issues as the whole team needs to learn a new scheme.

OC Nagy going, isn't a problem.

My guess is if Spags is HC somewhere... Dave Merritt or Joe Cullen or BOTH go with him.

So I think it's all contingent on which domino falls first. If it's a rebuild and all the coaches scatter.

Kelce retires. If there is more continuity... he probably stays another year or so.
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:46 AM   #4997
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So if KC gets the 3Peat.

Kelce retires (probably)
Nagy leaves
Spags leaves (nooooo)
Mike Borgonzi leaves for GM roles somewhere... (he's Veach right hand man...)

What they pay Mahomes $100m next year to suck... as we rebuild?

Maybe we trade the expensive future pieces like McDuffie?

Either way, this could be the end of this wing of the dynasty...
What the hell is this man?

It's a young team still overall. There's zero reason to tear it down when Andy and Mahomes are what drive everything. And let's be real, it's Patrick's team. Andy wasn't winning Super Bowls until he arrived. So as long as he's here, we ALWAYS have a chance.
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:47 AM   #4998
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Is Mahomes retiring? Because if he is that's the end. All that other shit would suck but doesn't matter. Mahomes + Rice+ Worthy is going to be a problem for the league for years
I don't think that's the issue. I think we have a 2 year rebuild and then go hard after the next wing of the dynasty. Like Brady did.

There will be a lull, especially if many coaches bail.

Completing a 3peat is a good time for them to go off on their own... in their minds, I would assume.
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What the hell is this man?

It's a young team still overall. There's zero reason to tear it down when Andy and Mahomes are what drive everything. And let's be real, it's Patrick's team. Andy wasn't winning Super Bowls until he arrived. So as long as he's here, we ALWAYS have a chance.

Yes, true... but all of these guys are about to get paid. So, IMO it all depends on what the coaches do, who bails, who moves on...
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:50 AM   #5000
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I think the odds Spags actually gets offered a job are less than 40%.
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I don't think that's the issue. I think we have a 2 year rebuild and then go hard after the next wing of the dynasty. Like Brady did.

There will be a lull, especially if many coaches bail.

Completing a 3peat is a good time for them to go off on their own... in their minds, I would assume.
Wasn't our rebuild supposed to be 2 years ago and we've won the super bowl since lol
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Obviously I want this to go on forever, but I'm also logical about it... trying to see what MIGHT happen if Spags, and the defensive coaches leave and Borgonzi leaves.

Borgonzi is a guy most don't talk about... but he manages all the NCAA scouting and whatnot. He is Veach's right hand homie.

I'm just gonna enjoy these last games of this season and hope we put feet on everyone's necks.

Let the cards fall as they may afterwards. I HOPE Spags stays. He's amazing. Love that guy.
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I think the odds Spags actually gets offered a job are less than 40%.
I like those odds.

If we get the Superbowl, most jobs might already be filled...
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:53 AM   #5004
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I think the odds Spags actually gets offered a job are less than 40%.
Lower. I don’t see how he’s ahead of any of these guys:

Aside from the offensive guys, he doesn’t even appear to be a top 3 defensive coach candidate.

Vrabel, Glenn and Saleh all seem higher on peoples list.
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Lower. I don’t see how he’s ahead of any of these guys:

Aside from the offensive guys, he doesn’t even appear to be a top 3 defensive coach candidate.

Vrabel, Glenn and Saleh all seem higher on peoples list.
He's also really old and the trend now is to not hire older coaches. Just seems everything is working against him other than he's on the staff of the team that keeps winning.
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I'm curious why any of these teams would hire a HC at Spags age.
To spite the Chiefs.
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Yes, true... but all of these guys are about to get paid. So, IMO it all depends on what the coaches do, who bails, who moves on...
I don't know who is and isn't getting paid quite frankly. I think they've molded into the old Patriots model where they are going to draw some hard lines in the sand and if you wanna prioritize money, you can go be the next Tyreek Hill. Be our guest.

I wouldn't let a blue chip elite like McDuffie go anywhere though. There's no reason he won't accept a perfectly reasonable contract and really, he probably deserves to be the highest paid CB.
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I don't know who is and isn't getting paid quite frankly. I think they've molded into the old Patriots model where they are going to draw some hard lines in the sand and if you wanna prioritize money, you can go be the next Tyreek Hill. Be our guest.

I wouldn't let a blue chip elite like McDuffie go anywhere though. There's no reason he won't accept a perfectly reasonable contract and really, he probably deserves to be the highest paid CB.
If they draw the line in the sand this could be a very difficult offseason to be honest.
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If they draw the line in the sand this could be a very difficult offseason to be honest.
I hear what you're saying - maybe you lose both Bolton and Smith for example.

But if they won't take our money, someone will. They'll use it on outsiders if they must who are hungry to win a title.
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I hear what you're saying - maybe you lose both Bolton and Smith for example.

But if they won't take our money, someone will. They'll use it on outsiders if they must who are hungry to win a title.
The Smith one doesn't concern me that much, I think Morris could easily be a good RG.

Bolton does because I don't see a ready made LB to step into his spot in the draft and we are already thin at the position.
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