Rashee Rice [legal issues megathread]

[DaFace]

The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.

Arrest warrant and potential charges:

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BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1

— WFAA (@wfaa) April 10, 2024

Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.

Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.

Analysis from a defense attorney:

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Originally Posted by DaFace

This is a pretty good thread from a defense attorney on the matter.

TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.

Turned himself in and now out on bail:

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Originally Posted by In58men

Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice has turned himself in to police after a warrant was issued for his arrest on Wednesday evening. https://t.co/rSp9IRRlFn pic.twitter.com/GlK4sB1XJM

— FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) April 12, 2024

Originally Posted by In58men

New avatar!!!

BREAKING: DeSoto PD releases #RasheeRice's booking photo.

Again, the Kansas City Chiefs receiver is no longer in the DeSoto Jail after posting a $40k bond.

(@wfaa) pic.twitter.com/IegZg3GFtL

— Matt Howerton (@HowertonNews) April 12, 2024

Random minutiae:

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 15, 2024

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..

— PJ Green (@PJGreenTV) April 15, 2024

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Interesting gambit.

But no, I don’t think you understand what Dunning-Kruger findings mean OR how to apply them in real life.

And I’m no expert on the paper but IQ is not an area of expertise. It is not a discipline to work in. You are born with it.


Calling someone dumb because they think they are smarter than your buddy is not understanding the concept.

Let’s say you go fishing for the first time. You may think you are better than you are and the person teaching you may underestimate their ability but it does not follow that if the teacher thinks they are better than the student at fishing they are wrong.

I was calling you dumb because you don't possess the ability to realize WTI's intelligence, and that's not relative to my own or your own. It's an objective measure beyond agreeing with someone on the internet or mashing reerun on your keyboard over and over.

DK also says people with higher intelligence tend to assume those around them possess the same level of intelligence.

And in this case, did you do that? Had you possessed that ability and assumed I knew what DK was, you wouldn't have mashed out on your keyboard a completely different definition of DK to make yourself sound smarter while telling me I didn't know what I was talking about and giving me some elementary example.... that's literally what DK says, smart people don't do that.

Thanks for proving my point several times over and I apologize for overestimating you when I thought you were better than the other resident keyboard masher/reerun caller.... my bad.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Interesting gambit.

But no, I don’t think you understand what Dunning-Kruger findings mean OR how to apply them in real life.

And I’m no expert on the paper but IQ is not an area of expertise. It is not a discipline to work in. You are born with it.


Calling someone dumb because they think they are smarter than your buddy is not understanding the concept.

Let’s say you go fishing for the first time. You may think you are better than you are and the person teaching you may underestimate their ability but it does not follow that if the teacher thinks they are better than the student at fishing they are wrong.

Do you own a BMW 335i too?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Do you own a BMW 335i too?

M-Sport, asshole!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Do you own a BMW 335i too?

At least the 335i doesn't pretend to be an M car

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I was calling you dumb because you don't possess the ability to realize WTI's intelligence, and that's not relative to my own or your own. It's an objective measure beyond agreeing with someone on the internet or mashing reerun on your keyboard over and over.

DK also says people with higher intelligence tend to assume those around them possess the same level of intelligence. Lol

And in this case, did you do that? Had you possessed that ability and assumed I knew what DK was, you wouldn't have mashed out on your keyboard a completely different definition of DK to make yourself sound smarter while telling me I didn't know what I was talking about and giving me some elementary example.... that's literally what DK says, smart people don't do that.

Thanks for proving my point several times over and I apologize for overestimating you when I thought you were better than the other resident keyboard masher/reerun caller.... my bad.

It's not a "definition". It was research and you still don't understand the findings.

Thanks for trying to dunk on me with it though. It was fun watching you fail.





As you can see, the findings reported by Kruger and Dunning are often interpreted to suggest that the less competent people are, the more competent they think they are. People who perform worst at a task tend to think they’re god’s gift to said task, and the people who can actually do said task often display excessive modesty. I suspect we find this sort of explanation compelling because it appeals to our implicit just-world theories: we’d like to believe that people who obnoxiously proclaim their excellence at X, Y, and Z must really not be so very good at X, Y, and Z at all, and must be (over)compensating for some actual deficiency; it’s much less pleasant to imagine that people who go around shoving their (alleged) superiority in our faces might really be better than us at what they do.

Unfortunately, Kruger and Dunning never actually provided any support for this type of just-world view; their studies categorically didn’t show that incompetent people are more confident or arrogant than competent people. What they did show is this:



https://talyarkoni.org/blog/2010/07/...t-is-and-isnt/

[KobesPilot]

Originally Posted by Dante84

No charges for:
- Guns
- Drugs
- DUI
- Leaving the scene
- Racing
- Reckless driving

leaving the scene is not it’s own charge, it’s just part of the test to see if the criteria is met for the other charges brought against him.

Sec. 22.02. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person commits assault as defined in >Sec. 22.01 and the person:

(1) causes serious bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse; or

(2) uses or exhibits a deadly weapon during the commission of the assault.

(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree

So at least one 2nd degree felony charge, that's bad.

Per TRANSP § 550.021 it looks like the collision causing serious bodily injury is the charge that's tied to him having left the scene, which is to be a third degree felony. The other six counts could go either way.

This is going to end in a guilty plea deal.

[Chris Meck]

I've got a bad feeling that Rashee Rice isn't playing much in 2024, if at all.

[suzzer99]

Well I have it on good authority from the CP legal brain trust that I'm a ****ing moron for first suggesting that Rice would have to admit he was driving, then for suggesting he'd get suspended, then for putting the suspension at 4-8 games.

So don't worry, he good.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

M-Sport, asshole!

M4.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by loochy

At least the 335i doesn't pretend to be an M car

Most of you seem so uneducated on BMWs current lineup. There’s nothing illegitimate about the M240i, M340i, M440i, or any other “M-lite” version of the lineup. Each one of those cars is extremely fast but doesn’t have the track acumen of the actual “M” cars. For daily driving the M lite cars are fantastic and still too fast for most driving conditions. Go read up on the B58 motor and perhaps then you’ll understand a bit more. Oh, and the 335i was a great car.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've got a bad feeling that Rashee Rice isn't playing much in 2024, if at all.

According to many on here what Rice did was a nothing burger and he’ll be getting a slap on the wrist from the Chiefs and the league. If the league wants to send a message about irresponsible and reckless driving in the wake of Ruggs and now this, unfortunately Rashee Rice is going to be on the receiving end of it. We’ll know soon enough, and whatever he gets he’ll deserve and hopefully learn from it.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've got a bad feeling that Rashee Rice isn't playing much in 2024, if at all.

Then the NFL is ****ed up beyond repair.

Kamara gets like 3 games for beating a dude within an inch of his life. And Rashee isn't playing much in a whole season.

****ing horrendous bullshit.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by 493rd

Most of you seem so uneducated on BMWs current lineup. There’s nothing illegitimate about the M240i, M340i, M440i, or any other “M-lite” version of the lineup. Each one of those cars is extremely fast but doesn’t have the track acumen of the actual “M” cars. For daily driving the M lite cars are fantastic and still too fast for most driving conditions. Go read up on the B58 motor and perhaps then you’ll understand a bit more. Oh, and the 335i was a great car.

I think most people are just flipping you shit... their inline 6s are great engines with outstanding performance and gas mileage for a daily driver without spending $100k+ on a new M... whether or not BMW wants to slap badges all over them.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Then the NFL is ****ed up beyond repair.

Kamara gets like 3 games for beating a dude within an inch of his life. And Rashee isn't playing much in a whole season.

****ing horrendous bullshit.

Unlike the Kamara situation, Rice decided to be an absolute idiot at the worst possible time, related to what Ruggs did previously. It doesn’t matter that he didn’t serious injure or kill anyone like Ruggs. It’s the behavior itself. Maybe it’s 8 games, maybe it’s 6 reduced to 4. Who knows?

[493rd]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I think most people are just flipping you shit... their inline 6s are great engines with outstanding performance and gas mileage for a daily driver without spending $100k+ on a new M... whether or not BMW wants to slap badges all over them.

Yep probably right!