Who is the first player/coach on Veach's guillotine?

[Womble]

A lot of people to choose from. But which person deserves to feel the blade first?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Womble

The answer is probably Skyy Moore. Even though he had nothing to do with this game. What the **** is he still doing on the Chiefs roster??

Also **** FAU that stupid piece of shit. I genuinely couldn't believe what I was watching when staring at him lining up offside on a critical 3rd down play.

That was Omenihu not FAU

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I do not think we can bring back Trey Smith with Creed’s contract on the books and the line showing it has more pressing needs at LT today.

I go back and forth about Nick Bolton.

We need LB's that have the speed to cover a TE or a back out of the backfield for 10-20 yards. He is a one dimensional LB. In todays game, thats not good.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Frankly, I'd let all free agents walk.

This is an opportunity to do a reset and, and you don't do a rest and play guys like Bolton, Reid, D-Hop, Brown, Charles O, Smith, and Wharton.

Now if someone wants to come back on a steel of a deal, I'll listen, but I'm not paying market rate to stay where I am at.

Fine, but realize it will take 2 years of excellent choices in FA and mid-round draft picks to replace that many contributors, while everyone on the team gets older and closer to the end of their contracts. We probably need to keep half of these guys who make the most sense. Bolton, Brown, Omenihiu, and Wharton would be my priorities, based on production and perceived cost-to-value.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Should be Jawaan Taylor… unfortunately the salary cap ramifications will save him.

He's here one more year.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Fine, but realize it will take 2 years of excellent choices in FA and mid-round draft picks to replace that many contributors, while everyone on the team gets older and closer to the end of their contracts. We probably need to keep half of these guys who make the most sense. Bolton, Brown, Omenihiu, and Wharton would be my priorities, based on production and perceived cost-to-value.

No on Bolton, He is way too one dimensional, too slow in coverage and teams took advantage of him despite Spags trying to hide his flaws from teams.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

No on Bolton, He is way too one dimensional, too slow in coverage and teams took advantage of him despite Spags trying to hide his flaws from teams.

Bolton is the main reason why Saquon was nullified, just like CMC and Derrick Henry when they played us. He's worth the extension. We just need complementary LBs who are good in coverage.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Fine, but realize it will take 2 years of excellent choices in FA and mid-round draft picks to replace that many contributors, while everyone on the team gets older and closer to the end of their contracts. We probably need to keep half of these guys who make the most sense. Bolton, Brown, Omenihiu, and Wharton would be my priorities, based on production and perceived cost-to-value.

2 years of excellent choices in FA and the draft is exactly what is needed, that is what the Eagles have had.

Bolton is a good occasionally great run-stuffer, but he's not worth paying to be a top LB, because he isn't. The Eagles have had more value from Baun and 3rd and 5th round draft picks.

Omenihu is fine but again we can't pay good money for OK. We are going to have to let a lot of these guys go, and that's fine

[DRM08]

Will be interesting to see what Veach & Andy will do in this offseason. Lot of big decisions to make across the roster.

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by Womble

The answer is probably Skyy Moore. Even though he had nothing to do with this game. What the **** is he still doing on the Chiefs roster??

Also **** FAU that stupid piece of shit. I genuinely couldn't believe what I was watching when staring at him lining up offside on a critical 3rd down play.

That was Omenihu

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Womble

Bolton is the main reason why Saquon was nullified, just like CMC and Derrick Henry when they played us. He's worth the extension. We just need complementary LBs who are good in coverage.

ya Bolton might be more important than some of us (including myself) have thought. He knows how to get in the right gaps, which is important

[chiefzilla1501]

I’ve said it for a while and I know people don’t want to hear it. But we need a reset year. A year where we lose a lot of free agents, trade a few guys, stockpile draft picks. If we do that we set us up really nicely for Mahomes to enter phase 2 of his career where he can play great into his 30s. The sooner we do it, the more quick and painless it’s gonna be.

The unfortunate reality is that we may not know how much more Reid has left. It feels like he’s year to year at this point. If that’s the case I wonder if the chiefs try to run it back until the wheels eventually fall off.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Vengeance is the wrong way to look at it. There is a salary cap. We have holes to fill. Draft picks. A 17 game schedule and some playoff games to get through with injuries. Think of it as a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces, where you only have to get more of the puzzle done than your opponents. The pieces change shape over time. And you have to bid for the pieces you’re missing. Guillotines are not useful.

This is the correct analogy.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I’ve said it for a while and I know people don’t want to hear it. But we need a reset year. A year where we lose a lot of free agents, trade a few guys, stockpile draft picks. If we do that we set us up really nicely for Mahomes to enter phase 2 of his career where he can play great into his 30s. The sooner we do it, the more quick and painless it’s gonna be.

The unfortunate reality is that we may not know how much more Reid has left. It feels like he’s year to year at this point. If that’s the case I wonder if the chiefs try to run it back until the wheels eventually fall off.

I think I agree, tbh I felt something of a reset would be needed irrespective of the SB outcome. We can't bring them all back, the approach has to be to just review what we're getting from some of these players and what that's worth, same as every year.

To that end, I'd honestly expect to say goodbye to Trey, Reid, Bolton, Omenihu, Hopkins and a few others.

The Eagles got Baun for $3.5m and Sweat for $10m. They are better than Bolton and Omenihu, they certainly were this year. These are the sort of contracts we're going to have to nail.

[JimNasium]

I’d be trying to steal Howie Roseman’s draft guide.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by JimNasium

I’d be trying to steal Howie Roseman’s draft guide.

Yeah, would be kinda handy to find the best LT in the league in the 7th round, or whatever. F**ker knows what he's doing.