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Old 01-27-2025, 09:26 PM  
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Buffalo Bills Dalton Kincaid's attempted catch not as easy as represented.
When we all saw the many replays of Kincaid not making the catch on that crazy Josh Allen pass, we equated it to the Raven's Mark Andrews drop and nothing could be farther from the truth.

Last night, no highlights really captured what happened.

Today on NFL live, the play was shown from above and it was incredibly difficult based on what happened.

Kincaid was running downfield angling towards the sidelines in a northeast direction from the line of scrimmage. As the play quickly broke down, Kincaid jammed on the breaks and in a split second surrounded by 4 Chief's defenders made a 180° turn in the opposite direction to try and catch the ball. He had almost no time to make the decision but by going back in a southwest direction, his angle to the ball was now too far forward and the ball traveled just a little further than his arms.

Was the ball catchable? Yes
Was it an easy diving catch? Hell no

Seeing the play from a drone view directly above really provided the best perspective. The ground view was too simplistic.

Thank God he was slightly off.....
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Old 01-27-2025, 10:33 PM   #31
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Travis Kelce would have caught it
He did

There was a pass similar trajectory in the ravens game where mahomes threw back to kelce and kelce made the catch to convert

I haven't found a gif or video of it yet though
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Old 01-27-2025, 10:34 PM   #32
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Old 01-27-2025, 10:38 PM   #33
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What I wonder is, should Kincaid have seen Allen was in trouble and/or felt the soft spot in the zone and just parked it instead of still running the route full steam?

IE - would Kelce have sat in the soft spot in that same situation?

If Kincaid did slow down instead of continuing to barrel towards the sideline, the catch would have been easy. He also adjusted to the ball super late.
You make a great point. This is another angle from the one I saw on NFL Live and I can't find their replay yet.

What I notice here is Kincaid jammed on the brakes, slid a little bit in the grass, tried to judge a very high thrown jump ball and his guess on angle was slightly off as well as the ball looked liked it started to drift left at the end.

That angle makes it look even harder!
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All kinds of people are talking about this. Allen admitted he adjusted the pressure to the left. He got fooled.
heard someone else talking about that play

supposedly spags had been showing that same blitz all game where they would run up on that side but then drop out and blitz from teh other

over and over

and then the game is on the line spags sent them

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Travis Kelce would have caught it
If it was the first pass of the game, no. He always needs to make an early drop to lull the competition.

If it was the end of the game, absolutely.
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kincaid didnt make the toughvcatch--earlier in the game worthy did
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heard someone else talking about that play

supposedly spags had been showing that same blitz all game where they would run up on that side but then drop out and blitz from teh other

over and over

and then the game is on the line spags sent them

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It was an easy catch and all Bills fans should die IMO
This is merciful but fair IMHO
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Noah Gray would have caught it and scored. That's the difference between Super Bowl champions and teams that lose in the playoffs.
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I heard several media guys praising Allen for a great pass.. Bullshit.. He just chucked it and prayed..
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