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Old 12-30-2008, 09:05 PM  
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The Pioli Watch Thread
I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

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New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:33 PM   #31
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jesus christ.

forget collecting information and making a well thought-out decision, lets just throw a bag of money at the biggest name.
It's always funny watching hapless Chiefs apologists attempt to defend every bone-headed move the Chiefs make.

It would be interesting to hear your rationale for why the Chiefs shouldn't be pursuing a GM like Scott Pioli as aggressively as Cleveland apparently is.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:40 PM   #32
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Pioli is NOT coming to KC. Period.

He wants total control, and Clark has gone on record MANY times to say that the football side and the business side would be run by two separate people.

Denny Thum has been with the organization for over 30 years, pre-Carl, and is one of the best cap guys out there. Clark isn't going to throw him to the curb over some guy that has been carried most of his career by someone else.

He's not coming here.

Get the **** over it.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:40 PM   #33
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It's always funny watching hapless Chiefs apologists attempt to defend every bone-headed move the Chiefs make.

It would be interesting to hear your rationale for why the Chiefs shouldn't be pursuing a GM like Scott Pioli as aggressively as Cleveland apparently is.
You gripe about anything that the Chiefs do. If you were running the show, we'd fire everyone after the first loss of every year and hire an entirely new organization, griping the whole time about how they're not doing it right. You're just unbearably ignorant.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:42 PM   #34
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It's always funny watching hapless Chiefs apologists attempt to defend every bone-headed move the Chiefs make.

It would be interesting to hear your rationale for why the Chiefs shouldn't be pursuing a GM like Scott Pioli as aggressively as Cleveland apparently is.
Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Pioli isn't the guy that Clark's after? He's just another hot name. I have a good feeling that clark wants one of the boys from baltimore, indy or NYG.

It would be interesting to hear your rationale as to why Pioli is all of a sudden some hands down, OMFG the greatest GM candidate out there. Some of you swear like Pioli is the only option. I'd rather we didn't get Pioli TBH.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:42 PM   #35
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It would be interesting to hear your rationale for why the Chiefs shouldn't be pursuing a GM like Scott Pioli as aggressively as Cleveland apparently is.
Clark could offer him HJ's, BJ's and ZJ's to come to KC. Pioli may just not want to and would rather go to Cleveland. What further rationale is needed?
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:45 PM   #36
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Pioli is NOT coming to KC. Period.

He wants total control, and Clark has gone on record MANY times to say that the football side and the business side would be run by two separate people.

Denny Thum has been with the organization for over 30 years, pre-Carl, and is one of the best cap guys out there. Clark isn't going to throw him to the curb over some guy that has been carried most of his career by someone else.

He's not coming here.

Get the **** over it.
exactly. These control freak GMs need to learn they don't run the whole show, they are still hired employees.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:47 PM   #37
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Take notes Clark...

This is how you aggressively pursue a top GM candidate.

Of course we wouldn't want the Chiefs GM search (or "Chiefs Duty" as I'm sure Clark would call it) to interfere with Clark's holiday vacation.
Take notes Clark...

This is how you drive off potential candidates because of your impatience.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:48 PM   #38
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Pioli is NOT coming to KC. Period.

He wants total control, and Clark has gone on record MANY times to say that the football side and the business side would be run by two separate people.

Denny Thum has been with the organization for over 30 years, pre-Carl, and is one of the best cap guys out there. Clark isn't going to throw him to the curb over some guy that has been carried most of his career by someone else.

He's not coming here.

Get the **** over it.
good point. and with the demand of Pioli, he is similiar to a free agent. The Chiefs do not typically spend big dollars on free agents just the same as they are not going to spend lots of money on Pioli.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:49 PM   #39
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Pioli is NOT coming to KC. Period.

He wants total control, and Clark has gone on record MANY times to say that the football side and the business side would be run by two separate people.

He's not coming here.

Get the **** over it.
IF it is so black and white as you describe, why did Hunt reach out to him and try to get him in for a visit?
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:49 PM   #40
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Look at all of the coaches that have come out of the New England system. They've been tearing the league up.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:51 PM   #41
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Look at all of the coaches that have come out of the New England system. They've been tearing the league up.
And there is a good chance the front office personal will do the same....
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:51 PM   #42
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If Pioli is smart he'll test the waters before he makes a decision.
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Look at all of the coaches that have come out of the New England system. They've been tearing the league up.
Cleveland just got burned by a NE castoff, I'm surprised that are jumping back in to the NE hype so quickly.
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IF it is so black and white as you describe, why did Hunt reach out to him and try to get him in for a visit?
Due diligence?

If I'm looking to hire someone for my company, and there's a rumor that one of my candidates has no interest in working for me, I'm going to at least ask and hear it from him directly - then move on.
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