New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

You'd think they would want to keep that internal.

True, probably don't want the poor conferences to know how much cash you have stored in the basement safe.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pants

When do you expect the move to happen?

I'm far from convinced that it will happen. MUrphy's Law* aside, I think it will still be a few weeks. aTm took forever, and I don't know why MU would be any faster. Mizzou has nothing to gain by acting quickly. The Big XII keeps sweetening the pot, and time is on our side.

Even if the SEC and MU have a handshake agreement, it would make more sense to wait out the Big XII. The Big XII needs to replace MU, and they can't do that as long as we are lounging in the conference just minding our own business. It's very possible that Mizzou is trying to wait out the Big XII to the point where they release us from our contract or settle for a vastly reduced exit fee. Of course, it's also very possible that MU ****s this up completely.



* I think I just coined a phrase.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

You'd think they would want to keep that internal.

Unless they were trying to create leverage with the Big 12.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

You'd think they would want to keep that internal.

Maybe. Or maybe they want it known that they have done their homework and have just improved the school's bottom line by $12,000,000 per year. I really don't know how/why this was released.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

True, probably don't want the poor conferences to know how much cash you have stored in the basement safe.

For all the "Missouri will take it's time" you blathered about this AM, one would think that numbers like this would make the decision easy.

Guess not.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Pants

When do you expect the move to happen?

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Braincase

Unless they were trying to create leverage with the Big 12.

Who needs leverage if you've got that stash waiting for you? F that. I'm heading south.

Unless it's horseshit. And if it's from drunky, it probably is.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

aTm took forever,

Wasn't that primarily because of the threat of lawsuits?

[Titty Meat]

Has MU been invited to the SEC yet? Been busy at work.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Has MU been invited to the SEC yet? Been busy at work.

Get with the program, you don't get invited to conferences. You invite yourself and then get voted up or down.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Wasn't that primarily because of the threat of lawsuits?

Lawsuits and exit fees, yes. I don't see that these issues have vanished entirely.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Who needs leverage if you've got that stash waiting for you? F that. I'm heading south.

There's still the threat of a $25 million exit penalty to address.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

There's still the threat of a $25 million exit penalty to address.

Also, the Big 12 is kinda busy with Ken Starr suing them for poaching TCU out of the Big East.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

There's still the threat of a $25 million exit penalty to address.

Settle up Southies!

I want some bball practice facility upgrades. and I want them on your dime.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Settle up Southies!

I want some bball practice facility upgrades. and I want them on your dime.

Nebraska paid around $6,000,000. Now that the conference is a shell of what it was when we signed our contract, I'd guess Mizzou gets stuck for around $3,000,000. Your share would be in the $250,000 range. Don't spend it all in one place.