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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Reading the graph it looks backwards.

% of perfect coverage faced is larger going to the left.

From this it looks like Allen is doing the most with less.

Mahomes, Jackson, Darnold, and Richardson are getting the best play calls.

Or those quarterbacks are good at changing the play to take advantage of what the defense is showing.
that is a really interesting graph to look at in terms of "how creative is this team's offensive playcalling"

Especially when it says "Man, Mike McCarthy is using the same caveman shit he used back in the Rodgers days. The stuff so braindead that made Rodgers start looking for a way out the moment LaFleur came in and changed it..."

Then you look at where Love is on that chart. And and wouldn't you know it, there's Mike Tomlin's Steelers way over on the left as well. Shocker.

Tells me that some coaching staffs are just really good at making easy yards for their QBs. And that some QBs are just really bad at choosing coaching staffs.

Man, A.A.Ron -- why did you like that guy so much?
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That chart bodes well for Mahomes’ TTU coach Ryan Gosling getting another shot at a head coaching gig. He set up his Rookie QB to win this year.
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They did something similar to this last year before the Playoffs as well. We saw how that worked out.
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Patrick Mahomes is still in his own tier.

Josh Allen has never won a playoff game against a division winner.

Lamar Jackson has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 13 points.

Jalen Hurts has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 7 points.

Russell Wilson hasn't won a playoff game since 2019.

Justin Herbert has never won a playoff game.

Joe Burrow has missed the playoffs (3) more times than he's made it (2).
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that is a really interesting graph to look at in terms of "how creative is this team's offensive playcalling"

Especially when it says "Man, Mike McCarthy is using the same caveman shit he used back in the Rodgers days. The stuff so braindead that made Rodgers start looking for a way out the moment LaFleur came in and changed it..."

Then you look at where Love is on that chart. And and wouldn't you know it, there's Mike Tomlin's Steelers way over on the left as well. Shocker.

Tells me that some coaching staffs are just really good at making easy yards for their QBs. And that some QBs are just really bad at choosing coaching staffs.

Man, A.A.Ron -- why did you like that guy so much?
What i find interesting is the massive difference between Richardson and Flacco.

Our the coaches better at calling plays for Richardson. Does Flacco not know how to audible?
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Lamar Jackson has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 13 points.

Jalen Hurts has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 7 points.


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Joe Burrow has missed the playoffs (3) more times than he's made it (2).
Burrow has missed the playoffs more times than Mahomes has missed the Super Bowl.
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Josh Allen has never earned a bye. Patrick Mahomes has had a bye 5 times in 7 years.

Josh Allen has never won a road game in the playoffs. He is 0-3. Patrick Mahomes is 2-0 on the road in the playoffs.

Josh Allen has only made it to the AFCCG 1 time in 5 playoff appearances. Mahomes has never failed to make the AFCCG in 6 playoff appearances.

Josh Allen has never had a 4th quarter comeback for victory or game-winning drive in the playoffs. Mahomes has had 5 4th quarter comebacks and 6 game-winning drives in the playoffs.
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Mahomes is only 2 wins from passing Montana for 2nd all time in postseason wins

Mahomes is only 5 TD’s from passing Rodgers and Montana for 2nd all time passing TD’s

Kid isn’t even 30
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Patrick Mahomes is still in his own tier.

Josh Allen has never won a playoff game against a division winner.

Lamar Jackson has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 13 points.

Jalen Hurts has never won a playoff game when his team allowed > 7 points.

Russell Wilson hasn't won a playoff game since 2019.

Justin Herbert has never won a playoff game.

Joe Burrow has missed the playoffs (3) more times than he's made it (2).
What the Jesus Christ? Are those ****ing true?
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The Ravens and Eagles are frontrunners.



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Another thing that should be added to that.

Josh Allen is 0-4 when his defense allows more than 24 points in the playoffs.

Yes he beat Miami 34-31 but his defense allowed exactly 24 points.
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Jared Goff really isn't much better.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/

Only one playoff game with more than 1 TD pass.

0-3 against playoff teams scoring 24 or more points.
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Josh Allen has never earned a bye. Patrick Mahomes has had a bye 5 times in 7 years.

Josh Allen has never won a road game in the playoffs. He is 0-3. Patrick Mahomes is 2-0 on the road in the playoffs.

Josh Allen has only made it to the AFCCG 1 time in 5 playoff appearances. Mahomes has never failed to make the AFCCG in 6 playoff appearances.

Josh Allen has never had a 4th quarter comeback for victory or game-winning drive in the playoffs. Mahomes has had 5 4th quarter comebacks and 6 game-winning drives in the playoffs.
Mahomes has 3 4th quarter comebacks in the Super Bowl.

It's pretty bizarre to me that these conversations still get had.
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The Ravens and Eagles are frontrunners.
That is mother****ing mind boggling. Surely those trends won't hold, small sample sizes and all, but that is the most remarkable shit I've seen in a good long time.
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Mahomes really does start to look more and more like Montana in these conversations.

I guess Burrow is Marino? Good stats, spotty playoff resume, missed the playoffs during his prime with a loaded offense more often than you realize.

The problem with the comparison is that there wasn't SHIT around Montana beyond Marino in the 80s. You could probably call Allen similar to Elway at a similar stage in their career? Would Jackson be Foutes? Incredible stats, little playoff success. Goff could be Simms? Got a good playoff run with a really good team. Occasionally looks spectacular, oftentimes is just a game manager. Could Stafford be Plunkett? Early career on bad teams, won a championship changing teams mid-career and caught fire for a post-season?

Some of the other guys like Moon and Kelly did most of their real damage in the 90s after Montana had aged out.

But the bottom line is that it really was Montana and then everyone else through the 80s. And Montana didn't always set the scoreboard ablaze or rack up gaudy stats, but he was the guy you wanted when it mattered.
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