***** The Official Chiefs vs Eagles super bowl LIX game day thread*****

[big nasty kcnut]

lets do this.


Passing Yards

KC
P. Mahomes
392-581, 3928 YDS, 26 TD, 11 INT

PHI
J. Hurts
248-361, 2903 YDS, 18 TD, 5 INT

Rushing Yards

KC
K. Hunt
200 CAR, 728 YDS, 7 TD

PHI
S. Barkley
345 CAR, 2005 YDS, 13 TD

Receiving Yards

KC
T. Kelce
97 REC, 823 YDS, 3 TD

PHI
A.J. Brown
67 REC, 1079 YDS, 7 TD


This is the end for you Eagles. Time to bend the knees and acknowledge your Super Chiefs! Let's win it for Len dawson the original Super Chiefs

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Dude. He played exclusively from the pocket in 2022 and won an MVP, Super Bowl MVP, and a Super Bowl from that style. Do I need to send you the season highlight video to refresh your memory or something?

People keep wanting to find every excuse other than Pat playing like shit. I don't get it.

This is not politics. You do not stare hard facts in the face, turn to the man next to you, and lie. You do not deny reality. You do not have 3 turnovers on your side of the field and win games.

One man did that. One man ate sacks, threw picks, and stared down WR's. I don't know why. I can't explain it. It happened though. It can both be true that he's the best QB of all time and that he played like a rookie today. That's the truth.

You want to point to coaching and drops you can. They happened. Many people shit the bed. Only one man threw pick sixes. Only one man refused to throw the ball away. The game ultimately depends on him.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Kingsley (pissed away 2nd), Morris (pissed away 3rd), Caliendo, now Humphries, letting OBJ go, disagrees with you, I credit Mahomes and Andy with the Superbowl success so much more than Veach. I am thankful for Veach, but still his OL evaluating abilities are minimal

To be fair Veach also drafted Creed, Trey Smith and Allegretti. Thuney was also an amazing signing.

[Gary Cooper]

Mahomes won the MVP two years ago after his last playoff loss. He was tuned in from week 1. He needs to do that next season. This should be extra motivation and unlike the Tampa loss where he was our best player, he wasn't good tonight.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

As he gets older and the hits add up, this style of play will harm him more and more and will also be less effective, he needs to learn to play from the pocket now akin to Brady and Manning. He has all of the skills to adjust. The gameplan to pinch him in from the sides is working to well against him now

Mahomes can do this with a much better OL. With this OL, against this DL, it wasn’t a recipe for success with Brady, Manning, or Mahomes.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Rausch

People keep wanting to find every excuse other than Pat playing like shit. I don't get it.

This is not politics. You do not stare hard facts in the face, turn to the man next to you, and lie. You do not deny reality. You do not have 3 turnovers on your side of the field and win games.

One man did that. One man ate sacks, threw picks, and stared down WR's. I don't know why. I can't explain it. It happened though. It can both be true that he's the best QB of all time and that he played like a rookie today. That's the truth.

You want to point to coaching and drops you can. They happened. Many people shit the bed. Only one man threw pick sixes. Only one man refused to throw the ball away. The game ultimately depends on him.

Might have to do with the ridiculously high pressure rate the Eagles got without blitzing

We literally saw Tampa win a SB against us exactly the same way, it’s not a mystery what happened out there

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Rausch

People keep wanting to find every excuse other than Pat playing like shit. I don't get it.

This is not politics. You do not stare hard facts in the face, turn to the man next to you, and lie. You do not deny reality. You do not have 3 turnovers on your side of the field and win games.

One man did that. One man ate sacks, threw picks, and stared down WR's. I don't know why. I can't explain it. It happened though. It can both be true that he's the best QB of all time and that he played like a rookie today. That's the truth.

You want to point to coaching and drops you can. They happened. Many people shit the bed. Only one man threw pick sixes. Only one man refused to throw the ball away. The game ultimately depends on him.

I’m not convinced there’s an active QB in the NFL who wins this one today. Mahomes never had the need to press in the Texans game, because unlike the that one, we were down by two scores on 3rd and long and Mahomes threw the exact same INT (for a pick 6) that he threw in both 49ers Super Bowls. Mahomes was the one who took us from losing from two possessions to making this game out of reach - but man, I just am not convinced there’s a QB in the NFL who’d have won this one with the support of one first half rushing attempt and no clear offensive adjustment.

Mahomes played like shit - and look, maybe the All 22 will show he had all kinds of receivers running free - but I think Andy’s first 15 offensive plays got curbstomped, Pat started pressing, and unlike the Niners super bowls the Eagles made us pay for that.

[BuckeyeTheDog]

Man, we got some tough Holding calls on us right when we were trying to get something started. It was brutal- and frustrating.

I found myself being pissed at all the bitching about the refs helping the Chiefs. Yes, we got our asses kicked tonight. And no, the refs did us no favors tonight.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Might have to do with the ridiculously high pressure rate the Eagles got without blitzing

We literally saw Tampa win a SB against us exactly the same way, it’s not a mystery what happened out there

We've seen this in multiple SBs in history. All with HOF QBs.

2007 Patriots
2011 Patriots
2013 Broncos
2020 Chiefs
2024 Chiefs

Each of these teams got killed in the Super Bowl because their O-line couldn't block the front four. And some of these offenses were all time units.

[MahomesMagic]

We became a defensive team relying on our O to do just enough.


Tonight our O was not even mediocre. They got murdered.


We need to build a real offense again.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

We've seen this in multiple SBs in history. All with HOF QBs.

2007 Patriots
2011 Patriots
2013 Broncos
2020 Chiefs
2024 Chiefs

Each of these teams got killed in the Super Bowl because their O-line couldn't block the front four. And some of these offenses were all time units.

2007 Patriots were probably the best offense of all time and they could barely put up points in that SB

It happens when your line gets torched like that, that’s for sure. Veach needs to figure out the LT spot long term.

[New World Order]

Someone nuke this thread

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I’m not convinced there’s an active QB in the NFL who wins this one today.

The exact same thing happened 3 weeks ago and the same man performed well, delivered the football, and did not have multiple turnovers.

Same scenario. Same guy. Much, much worse performance.

In fact the Texans have a better pass rush. They are a faster pass rush. Pat delivered the football the quickest of his career that game. He did not today.

Why? I will never know. Andy's play calling? Pat nervous? I can't state the why. I can state that a guy who highly successful just a few weeks ago vs. a better pass rush failed horribly today. That's it.

Part of why the pressures people keep quoting were given up was he HELD ONTO THE FOOTBALL. You don't get 5 seconds to make a decision.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I’m not convinced there’s an active QB in the NFL who wins this one today. Mahomes never had the need to press in the Texans game, because unlike the that one, we were down by two scores on 3rd and long and Mahomes threw the exact same INT (for a pick 6) that he threw in both 49ers Super Bowls. Mahomes was the one who took us from losing from two possessions to making this game out of reach - but man, I just am not convinced there’s a QB in the NFL who got the support of one first half rushing attempt and no clear offensive adjustment was going to win this one today.

Mahomes played like shit - and look, maybe the All 22 will show he had all kinds of receivers running free - but I think Andy’s first 15 offensive plays got curbstomped, Pat started pressing, and unlike the Niners super bowls the Eagles made us pay for that.

Empty backfield on your first series communicates to the DC of the Eagles, that you are NOT serious about running game. They probably thought that Andy is NOT serious about running Game. We start our left guard at left tackle communicates that your gameplan that the Chiefs are NOT going to be serious at all about running the ball is full speed ahead. Chiefs had no adjustment and got crushed by the best defense in the NFL this year. That’s all. Great ride by the Chiefs. It had been a fun 3 years, and a lot more good football to come.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No other QB is winning that game with those pressure stats

His first pick was truly awful but he was trying to force a 3rd and 16 throw in that wasn’t there to try to avert a blowout, that’s the product of the constant pressure as well

Of the 9 most pressured QB’s in SB history (counting tonight), only 1 QB has won a SB and it was Eli Manning.

And the only reason he won is bc the Giants and Patriots had one of the top 8 DL pressures in a SB and one team had to win.

No QB facing this is winning

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Rausch

People keep wanting to find every excuse other than Pat playing like shit. I don't get it.

This is not politics. You do not stare hard facts in the face, turn to the man next to you, and lie. You do not deny reality. You do not have 3 turnovers on your side of the field and win games.

One man did that. One man ate sacks, threw picks, and stared down WR's. I don't know why. I can't explain it. It happened though. It can both be true that he's the best QB of all time and that he played like a rookie today. That's the truth.

You want to point to coaching and drops you can. They happened. Many people shit the bed. Only one man threw pick sixes. Only one man refused to throw the ball away. The game ultimately depends on him.

.

But two things can be true at the same time - our O-Line is very terrible.