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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:08 PM   #391
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Am I the only one that remembers the transition from 2008 to 2009?

The front seven had to be completely re-done.
No, it doesn't. I'm not sure that we aren't a better fit for a 4-3 than a 3-4 right now.

Houston - Nnadi - Jones - Speaks
Niemann - Hitchens - O'Daniel
Ward - Berry - Lucas - Fuller

Ford - He's the one that doesn't really fit a 3-4. We should Tag/Trade him.
Look to upgrade; Niemann, Speaks and the Safety position.


Houston - can no longer run well enough to play linebacker and is better at DE.

Jones - not a 2-gap guy, he was a liability against the run in a 2-gap system. He will be a very good 3-tech where is can just penetrate and follow the ball.

Nnadi - will hold the point, his specialty

Speaks - i'm not sure he's any good but he's built to be a DE.

Hitchens - more protected in a 4-3, will be able to move better and find the ball

O'daniel - should be a perfect WLB if he can stay healthy

Niemann - I dunno if he can start in the NFL or not.
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They were pissed about the Pederson hire! Literally said it was the safe move. Heard it called Andy reid-esk. Said it would get them nowhere. They also were pumped about chip. They’ve been wrong at almost every point lol.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:09 PM   #393
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The team was dee Ford hand away from the Super Bowl with a historically awful defense. We don't need a risky assistant learning how to be a coordinator. This gives us a competent nfl defensive coordinator. We don't need the 85 Bears defense.
I think that's where Reid is coming from. He needs someone the players can instantly buy into, knows what it takes to win in the NFL, can manage the defense without Reid having to intervene and can put together an average defense.
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Bailey is a FA. How does he fit a 4-3 or is he a gonner
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:14 PM   #396
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No, it doesn't. I'm not sure that we aren't a better fit for a 4-3 than a 3-4 right now.

Houston - Nnadi - Jones - Speaks
Niemann - Hitchens - O'Daniel
Ward - Berry - Lucas - Fuller

Ford - He's the one that doesn't really fit a 3-4. We should Tag/Trade him.
Look to upgrade; Niemann, Speaks and the Safety position.


Houston - can no longer run well enough to play linebacker and is better at DE.

Jones - not a 2-gap guy, he was a liability against the run in a 2-gap system. He will be a very good 3-tech where is can just penetrate and follow the ball.

Nnadi - will hold the point, his specialty

Speaks - i'm not sure he's any good but he's built to be a DE.

Hitchens - more protected in a 4-3, will be able to move better and find the ball

O'daniel - should be a perfect WLB if he can stay healthy

Niemann - I dunno if he can start in the NFL or not.
agree on Ford, and I really was leery of paying him that kind of coin when he's so bad at run defense. I literally saw a Colts WR block him at the point of attack and blow him out.

Also agree that Houston's speed has dropped, but he's still plenty quick and powerful enough to play RDE. I think he'd be excellent there, might help him stay on the field too. Less running in space. If he wants to restructue, which I'd think he would. If he doesn't you have to cut him, $21m is too much.

It'll be nice to see if we have anything in our last 2 #2 picks as well; both Kpass and Speaks are DE's, not OLB's. They're not covering the flat for anyone. But stick their hand in the dirt and get up field? Maybe, yeah.
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No, it doesn't. I'm not sure that we aren't a better fit for a 4-3 than a 3-4 right now.

Houston - Nnadi - Jones - Speaks
Niemann - Hitchens - O'Daniel
Ward - Berry - Lucas - Fuller

Ford - He's the one that doesn't really fit a 3-4. We should Tag/Trade him.
Look to upgrade; Niemann, Speaks and the Safety position.


Houston - can no longer run well enough to play linebacker and is better at DE.

Jones - not a 2-gap guy, he was a liability against the run in a 2-gap system. He will be a very good 3-tech where is can just penetrate and follow the ball.

Nnadi - will hold the point, his specialty

Speaks - i'm not sure he's any good but he's built to be a DE.

Hitchens - more protected in a 4-3, will be able to move better and find the ball

O'daniel - should be a perfect WLB if he can stay healthy

Niemann - I dunno if he can start in the NFL or not.
Paying Justin Houston 21.1 million to experiment with his hand in the ground full time doesn't seem like the best use of resources.
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Paying Justin Houston 21.1 million to experiment with his hand in the ground full time doesn't seem like the best use of resources.
If you think we're going to pay him $21.1 million dollars, you're stupid.
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We should stop with the 4-3 vs 3-4. Defenses today switch by the down.
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If you think we're going to pay him $21.1 million dollars, you're stupid.
No, that's exactly the point. He's getting released.
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No, that's exactly the point. He's getting released.
I'd say that's maybe a 40% chance.

I'd say it's more likely they restructure his deal and he stays.

with his injury history and age, he's not going to get any huge deal on the open market. If he stays he's got a shot at a ring. I think Houston's made a ton of money, and would want that more than anything.
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I'd say that's maybe a 40% chance.

I'd say it's more likely they restructure his deal and he stays.

with his injury history and age, he's not going to get any huge deal on the open market. If he stays he's got a shot at a ring. I think Houston's made a ton of money, and would want that more than anything.
He's not quite 30 yet and is coming off a pretty good year. He'd get paid big on an open market with all the big name edge rushers likely getting an extension or tagged.

This is his best chance to get one last good payday.
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My point about not being able to trade Dee Ford is the Chiefs won’t have the luxury of leverage. Teams will know he doesn’t fit a 4-3, and possibly decide to keep bidding low or wait for release.

I’m still laughing because people think we have personal for 4-3, hint.... We dont
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He's not quite 30 yet and is coming off a pretty good year. He'd get paid big on an open market with all the big name edge rushers likely getting an extension or tagged.

This is his best chance to get one last good payday.
Tied for 24th in sacks. Pretty good year? Not for how much he got paid.
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