Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs ****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 261 of 307 « First 161211251257258259260 261 262263264265271 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is online now
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-238004
VARSITY
*****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****
More to come! (I'll clean it up later - info dump into the OP)

(mod edit, all the goodness is in the spoiler tags)
Spoiler!
Last edited by Bearcat; 04-28-2020 at 12:07 PM..
Posts: 20,115
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2022, 07:30 PM   #3901
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-280960
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus View Post
Generally speaking, so have we when you put a competent RB in the game.

Big difference is, Swift is only going to see six or seven man boxes here. Teams who play us are far more terrified of Mahomes, Kelce, and formerly Hill.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing that Swift would be better. Me and Detoxing had a similar debate before the draft that year. I preferred Swift, and still would.

But despite being more talented, Swift is somehow significantly more injury prone.

Honestly, outside of Taylor, that entire RB class has been a huge disappointment.

CEH, Swift, Dobbins, and Akers are all looking like busts at this point for one reason or another.
Posts: 51,007
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2022, 09:27 PM   #3902
-King- -King- is offline
▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓
 
-King-'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Casino cash: $415743
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post
Detroit has had a really good OL for 2 years now.

Swift's biggest issue is that he can't stay healthy, not his situation.
Him and CEH have played the same number of games. They're both injury prone.
Posts: 64,628
-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2022, 09:32 PM   #3903
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-280960
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- View Post
Him and CEH have played the same number of games. They're both injury prone.
CEH has only really had 2 injuries, and one was just a very freak accident when he was twisted up. Many thought it would be worse than it was.

I'm giving CEH the benefit of the doubt, because he's been healthy so far in year 3.

Meanwhile, for the 3rd year in a row, Swift has already missed multiple games. He literally didn't make it out of week 1 without getting hurt.

He's always banged up, and has played hurt some games too.
Posts: 51,007
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2022, 09:36 PM   #3904
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-280960
Not saying CEH hasn't been a little injury prone himself, but he might be the only one that can even make it through a full season.
Posts: 51,007
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2022, 11:39 PM   #3905
Rasputin Rasputin is online now
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $1575421
CEH hasn't lived up to my expectations but there is still football to be played. He has done some good things but the big thing is for him to hit the hole and that shouldn't be hard behind this line. I'm not giving up on him even if I curbed my expectations. I just expected him play above his rookie season and hasn't happened yet. I think they need to work harder at establishing the run because our book end tackles suck in pass protection but better at run blocking. Keep rotating the backs Keep them fresh for the playoffs. I want to save McKinnon as much as possible for playoffs.
__________________
"Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
Posts: 56,281
Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 01:43 AM   #3906
JPH83 JPH83 is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Feb 2021
Casino cash: $960400
Reasonable to say lots of smart people liked the CEH pick. But I never want to hear from the "Poople saying never take a RB in the 1st round are full of it" lot again. You're wrong, you've always been wrong, it is a sh***y stupid move and you can bet Veach isn't dumb enough make that mistake again.
Posts: 3,864
JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 06:17 AM   #3907
Meatloaf Meatloaf is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Casino cash: $3070359
Swift is soft. Not nearly enough dog in him.
Posts: 3,125
Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Meatloaf Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 10:28 AM   #3908
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
suzzer99's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: L.A.
Casino cash: $944284
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPH83 View Post
Reasonable to say lots of smart people liked the CEH pick. But I never want to hear from the "Poople saying never take a RB in the 1st round are full of it" lot again. You're wrong, you've always been wrong, it is a sh***y stupid move and you can bet Veach isn't dumb enough make that mistake again.
If we had gotten anything close to Kareem Hunt it would totally be worth it. Our offense has never been the same since we lost Hunt. And obviously it isn't trivially easy to replace him (the myth about RBs) - because we've been trying for a while with zero luck.

I feel like the "RBs don't matter" mantra has swung too far the other way. Everyone just repeats it as dogma now w/o even thinking about it. Maybe RBs don't matter as much when you have a shitty QB. But right now we are dying for a RB that makes teams think twice about these ultra-light boxes. Teams don't fear our running game at all. And with our OL, they should. But our RBs suck.

Also if your late 1st-round RB turns out to be a stud, you can ride him for 5 years and then let him walk for a big payday elsewhere when he's just about used up anyway.
Posts: 27,862
suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 10:33 AM   #3909
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-280960
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPH83 View Post
Reasonable to say lots of smart people liked the CEH pick. But I never want to hear from the "Poople saying never take a RB in the 1st round are full of it" lot again. You're wrong, you've always been wrong, it is a sh***y stupid move and you can bet Veach isn't dumb enough make that mistake again.
Eh, I'm all for a rule of not taking a RB in the top 20, and it's not my preference to take one on the 1st, but I stand by the fact that there's virtually no difference in taking one at 32 and taking one at 35.

If the Chiefs got a back like Breece Hall at 32, the pick would've been fine.

I would agree that if you're going to do it, you better be right, and it better be a hit, but I will never agree to it as a rule that you can never break.
Posts: 51,007
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 11:06 AM   #3910
scho63 scho63 is offline
Politically Incorrect
 
scho63's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Casino cash: $701110
We thought CEH would be an 8/10
CEH is a 5/10
__________________
"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!" ~Redd Foxx~


2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach
"The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"

Posts: 53,039
scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 11:23 AM   #3911
Woogieman Woogieman is offline
Veteran
 
Woogieman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2021
Casino cash: $2960400
Quote:
Originally Posted by scho63 View Post
We thought CEH would be an 8/10
CEH is a 5/10
Yep, he just doesn't break tackles. Hell he doesn't even fall forward for the extra yard. Very much like if you pulled his flag, down at the point of contact.
Posts: 1,021
Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.Woogieman is not part of the Right 53.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 11:59 AM   #3912
CatfishBob2 CatfishBob2 is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Jan 2018
Casino cash: $890400
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post
Eh, I'm all for a rule of not taking a RB in the top 20, and it's not my preference to take one on the 1st, but I stand by the fact that there's virtually no difference in taking one at 32 and taking one at 35.

If the Chiefs got a back like Breece Hall at 32, the pick would've been fine.

I would agree that if you're going to do it, you better be right, and it better be a hit, but I will never agree to it as a rule that you can never break.
Using CEH as evidence against picking RBs in the first is smooth-brained logic. He was over drafted based off his measurables alone. First round RB's should be of a certain size/speed, with outstanding production in college
Posts: 673
CatfishBob2 is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.CatfishBob2 is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.CatfishBob2 is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 12:12 PM   #3913
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Forever Royal
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $-78700
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Guys like Kenyan Drake, James Conner and Sony Michel have been freely available the last 2 seasons and have all had better production over that timespan than Clyde has had.

The Chiefs made no effort whatsoever to bring Darrel Williams back and he was showing himself to be superior to CEH in passing situations and equally bleh running the ball.

If they had invested in Clyde what they invested in Darrel (which is to say - nothing), I don't think he'd be here anymore. Frankly, he'd have never have gotten the amount of opportunities he's gotten to this point, or will evidently continue to get.

He's the living embodiment of divestiture aversion.

I know I’m late to this but I too believe he is only getting the time he does because of his draft position. Let’s not forget he was the first RB taken in that draft. They had their pick of litter and failed miserably.
Posts: 25,457
mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.mr. tegu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 12:16 PM   #3914
staylor26 staylor26 is online now
In Search of a Life
 
staylor26's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Casino cash: $-280960
Let's just say the Chiefs drafted a clone of Christian McCaffrey at 32 that year.

Do you honestly believe it would make sense to still say they shouldn't have taken a RB?

If you got a back like that at 32 on a cheap rookie deal with a 5th year option, that's a great pick.

That's the only real appeal to me in taking a RB though. A team that is already a SB contender adding a Christian McCaffrey level back for 5 cheap years.

When you're the Panthers and take him at 8, then proceed to waste all that time being trash, then it's obviously not worth it.
Posts: 51,007
staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.staylor26 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2022, 12:24 PM   #3915
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $994064
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post
Let's just say the Chiefs drafted a clone of Christian McCaffrey at 32 that year.

Do you honestly believe it would make sense to still say they shouldn't have taken a RB?

If you got a back like that at 32 on a cheap rookie deal with a 5th year option, that's a great pick.

That's the only real appeal to me in taking a RB though. A team that is already a SB contender adding a Christian McCaffrey level back for 5 cheap years.

When you're the Panthers and take him at 8, then proceed to waste all that time being trash, then it's obviously not worth it.
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Posts: 82,996
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 261 of 307 « First 161211251257258259260 261 262263264265271 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:09 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.