Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition

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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You beat me to this! I'm so confused. DJ was spitting venom toward the Bills.

I don't mind Buffalo at all. I actually like Josh Allen and love the way he plays. They have a good fanbase, they're a small market team, and they've had years of heartache. At the playoff game last year their fans were - with the exception of one guy - completely friendly and gracious.

But yeah, like DJ, I thought they'd be the better matchup for us so I'm happy we get to meet them again.

It's all relative.

If Buffalo beats us, I suspect the crowing of their fans will have me turning against them the same way I turned against Boston fans (who were the enemy of my enemy w/ the Yankees) after they beat the Cardinals in the 2004 World Series.

I went into that Series content that if they beat us, at least I didn't hate them.

Then by the end of the series I hated the entire franchise and city. It could well come to that with Buffalo as well.

But as it presently stands, they're just too much like us.

[RealSNR]

Nah **** the Bills, guys.

I just can NOT ****ing stand darling teams who get media funerals when they're eliminated.

No, it's not about the history, either. It's about Josh Allen entirely. "We deserve to keep watching Josh Allen!" It was its worst in the 13 second game, but it hasn't gone away. Even when the Bills looked like complete dookie in the Damar season they got the treatment.

Detroit got eliminated. Nobody said things like the NFL isn't getting the playoff matchup they deserve by them being eliminated. Nobody whined about how fun they are and how we're being deprived of that. And this doesn't apply to Detroit, but goddamn the media crocodile tears after 13 seconds. The crying. I can't stand it. Nobody inflated how well their QB ACTUALLY played or said he outplayed the other QB even though they were pretty much even.

How can I hate an historical lovable loser fanbase located in an economically depressed city that just keeps on ticking, donates to charity a bunch, and just loves their local football team? That's how.

****'em. Not just because they stand in the way of the Chiefs. I mean just plain **** the Bills. Because **** them.

[Monticore]

If we get a lot of long sustained drives Josh might force things especially if they are behind , hoping for a mistake or two if we fall behind they are just going to run him and cook and play keep away , need to start fast

[smithandrew051]

We’re going to knuckle **** their taints

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Was it a function of turning them loose or deciding who you are going to let beat you? The way the Texans covered Kelce (or better, didn’t cover him) kinda answers that, IMO. It’s like they took away DHop and Hollywood and said beat us with the old Man and the rookie…and we did. I don’t know. Maybe I’m way off on that analysis.

It was definitely them deciding to focus coverage on the WR. I think we realized that quickly and removed basically every WR route from the middle of the field to allow Kelce as much space as possible.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

It was definitely them deciding to focus coverage on the WR. I think we realized that quickly and removed basically every WR route from the middle of the field to allow Kelce as much space as possible.

I appreciate the Texans unleashing Playoff Kelce. It was an absolute pleasure watching him dice up their D

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This game really makes me nervous.

I think the defense can hold Buffalo to 24 or less, the issue is, the offense is bi-polar and def came out rusty this past weekend for sure.

If we get the offense we saw in Pitt or in the first Texans game, that would be great. But the offense has just sputtered most of the year, then found a way in the 4th.

The problem was, when the defense wasn't stopping the Bills the sputtering on offense means we lost by 9.

This game will be tougher than the SB because neither the Commanders or Eagles are as good as the Bills. This is it.

The Bills defense isn’t in the same universe as the Texans. Not even close.

The Texans have the best pass rush duo in football as well as an All-pro CB and very good rookie CB.

There’s a reason we struggled last week. Those guys are ****ing monsters.

Thuney won't ever beat himself... Gets out of stance on time, square, balanced... but there are 'dudes' at DE in this league - and they will just use that 3-4yd runway (speed to power) to blast through you. You gotta just hold on & absorb - which is hard when you're not 6'6 330 pic.twitter.com/OjbGz5eC0D

— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) January 19, 2025

Buffalo isn’t doing this with Rousseau and 40 year old Von Miller. The Ravens OL has struggled a lot and even they gave Lamar tons of time.

Again. The Texans had the best defense of any playoff team by the numbers and it showed. The Bills are not the Texans. Not even close.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's all relative.

If Buffalo beats us, I suspect the crowing of their fans will have me turning against them the same way I turned against Boston fans (who were the enemy of my enemy w/ the Yankees) after they beat the Cardinals in the 2004 World Series.

I went into that Series content that if they beat us, at least I didn't hate them.

Then by the end of the series I hated the entire franchise and city. It could well come to that with Buffalo as well.

But as it presently stands, they're just too much like us.

Man they lead the refs favoritism charge more than anyone. They complained for days about how lucky we were Mixon was on the injury report while never acknowledging Flowers being out. For years now they’ve been saying they are actually the better team with the better QB and the only reason we beat them is refs and luck. We were never like that at all and never felt completely entitled like they do.

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

You don’t understand? When the Chiefs have shown a history of holding back plays and unleashing them in the playoffs?

Did we see the Chiefs spamming Tom and Jerry/Corn Dog in the regular season to pump up red zone conversions during the regular season the past two years? Or did they break those out for key spots in the playoffs?

Did we see the Chiefs spamming run-pass options with Mahomes before the playoffs, ever?

You’re going to tell me they haven’t worked out a counterpunch to the “crash the line with power rushes to the QB’s left hand, spy prepared to chase Mahomes when he scrambles right” tactic the Chargers pioneered and the Bills used in many key spots in the regular season?

It’s one of the reasons KC has been able to amp up its red zone efficiency so much in the playoffs, even back to the 2019 run. They had what was, to some, concerning “conversion rates in the red zone, and then in the playoffs they turn into an ultra efficient red zone TD machines while breaking out shit from a Rose Bowl in the 1940s.

Spagnuolo has done it, too - saving a major tendency breaker look for a must-have spot in the postseason.

People expect some new wrinkles because new wrinkles have come out every year.

Evidently, I don't see it. What i saw in those situations was using plays that took advantage of the defensive alignment. Or in the case of the Texans game, blitzing against their offensive line because their prior drive consumed most of the 3rd quarter and the defense didn't have an answer. I didn't seem any efficiency on the first two drives against the Texans. Wouldn't have made sense to get TDs instead of FGs in that situation?

I find the narrative that the Chiefs are going to turn into Acme and break out all of these amazing plays to dazzle the opponent dumb.

[RollChiefsRoll]

It is kinda nice that we haven’t been overrun with Bills turds on the forum just yet. Maybe it’ll come later in the week.

[Rainbarrel]

After Justin Tucker's dive this year. Kelce needs some pre-game time with Tucker(hehe) Bass

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I know. But then I realized that I still hate the Bengals fans more than them in all that.

Yes, I'm always going to mock their Vaginitis for that whole Hamlin thing. And I still laugh when I see that guy playing for them because he is BAD at football and the only reason they haven't cut him is because of the PR blowback (they KNEW he was bad at football before he died on the field, now they just pretend he isn't).

But there isn't a franchise/fanbase in sports with a closer parallel to the 2017 version of the KC Chiefs and their fans. Right down to their hatred of New England (I mean c'mon, throwing dildoes at Brady is just classic).

They'd be our cousins to the East if we didn't have to go through them. And vice versa -- they embraced us as the guys to end the Patriots dynasty until we actually did it.

Of them, Baltimore and Cincy, it's just not a close question. To say nothing of our Division rivals. They're just much less hateable than those guys.

I hate Bengals fans far more than any other fan base so that's not really a fair comparison for me.

I want to say I hate Bills fans but jumping through tables, fingers in buttholes, throwing dildos, and covering each other in ketchup and mustard isn't just weird, it's kinda sick. The situation between the two teams might be similar but they're not like us.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I hate Bengals fans far more than any other fan base so that's not really a fair comparison for me.

I want to say I hate Bills fans but jumping through tables, fingers in buttholes, throwing dildos, and covering each other in ketchup and mustard isn't just weird, it's kinda sick. The situation between the two teams might be similar but they're not like us.

Sounds like someone just hasn't had the right finger in his butthole...

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The team just looked so vanilla in that matchup, though.

But yeah - ain't gonna have a good time next week if Brown and Hopkins get shutout and 90% of our receiving yards to our WRs comes on throws behind the LOS.

The offense has to be better. I just don't know at this point what to say about it. My position has been all year that it's Mahomes that makes it all make sense, for good and bad. When the offense isn't good, it's largely because he isn't. When it's good, it's because he is.

And what decides if he's good or isn't is just a complete wild-ass guess at this point.

I wouldn't say the Texans game was a bad offensive performance. They were a little rusty to start, but 23 points in 7 drives is pretty good. And like Chris Simms said, it kind of throws off the gameplan to start in the red zone.

3.3 points per drive. Scored on 5 of 7 drives vs a great defense that was built to exploit KC's weakness. The same effort probably translates to 30+ vs the Bills. Their defense isn't even close to Houston's level.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I wouldn't say the Texans game was a bad offensive performance. They were a little rusty to start, but 23 points in 7 drives is pretty good. And like Chris Simms said, it kind of throws off the gameplan to start in the red zone.

3.3 points per drive. Scored on 5 of 7 drives vs a great defense that was built to exploit KC's weakness. The same effort probably translates to 30+ vs the Bills. Their defense isn't even close to Houston's level.

Level headed review.