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There's two sides to that situation you posted at the end of your quote in regards to health. The one you gave is best case scenario. I'm fine with playing Mahomes if he's healthy enough to play - the plan being to get rid of the ball as fast as possible, and the coaches sign off on it for the record. But, if he shows any sign of gimpiness you keep him out for the sake of the rest of playoffs.
Winning the #1 seed is the most direct route to the Super Bowl, statistically speaking. I'm all about following the path of least resistance. Playing with the probabilities, not against them.

As for Pat's health, assuming he's actually able to play this weekend, he should play. Winning the #1 seed would get him roughly 3 times more rest than resting him this week. It seems to me if we want him to be as healthy as possible going into the playoffs, getting a bye would do it. Again, it's all about maximizing opportunity.
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Winning the #1 seed is the most direct route to the Super Bowl, statistically speaking. I'm all about following the path of least resistance. Playing with the probabilities, not against them.

As for Pat's health, assuming he's actually able to play this weekend, he should play. Winning the #1 seed would get him roughly 3 times more rest than resting him this week. It seems to me if we want him to be as healthy as possible going into the playoffs, getting a bye would do it. Again, it's all about maximizing opportunity.
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Winning the #1 seed is the most direct route to the Super Bowl, statistically speaking. I'm all about following the path of least resistance. Playing with the probabilities, not against them.

As for Pat's health, assuming he's actually able to play this weekend, he should play. Winning the #1 seed would get him roughly 3 times more rest than resting him this week. It seems to me if we want him to be as healthy as possible going into the playoffs, getting a bye would do it. Again, it's all about maximizing opportunity.
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The strategic decision is to get the #1 seed while it's there for the taking and rest everybody going into the playoffs.

You're trying to play prevent and hope that the rest of the team stays healthy around Pat without any rest while they're playing TWO GAMES (Denver and Wild Card weekend) they don't even have to play if they win the next two.

You go on about how the offense with Wentz will be fine and then end your post talking about how it hasn't been good even with Mahomes. What gives you the idea that Andy can just dial up an offense and make it work with Wentz when he hasn't really been able to that for Pat in 14 games? Also our running game is bad. Defenses don't respect it all. Running the ball more would just shorten the game.

The rest angle just makes zero sense. Win the #1 seed and the WHOLE team will be rested and ready for the playoffs. If Pat's ankle is worse than everybody thought it becomes even more dire. He rests a week, doesn't get better soon enough, and then they miss the #1 seed. Pat is once again playing in two games that he wouldn't have to play in otherwise.

You're actually INCREASING the injury risk over time by subjecting him to more games and thus more hits.
Even if the Chiefs lose tomorrow they win the next 2 games - they get #1 seed. So I don't understand this 'I'm increasing the injury risk over time...." statement you made when there are too many variables to say that if Chiefs lose (and they may not) that the season is basically over and they won't get the #1 seed.

Wentz is one of the better backups in the NFL, Reid knows how to design plays for him due to his time in Philly, and our D is solid. Chiefs are also at home. They can win w him.

And the strategic goal for this team is to win the SB, not get the #1 seed. Those are two very different things. Mahomes has repeatedly said what the goal for this team is this season and that's a SB victory.

That said I believe in Reid especially when it comes QBs. I've said that way before Mahomes got here, so I know he will make the right decision. I'm not overly worried about it. We'll see what happens.
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There's two sides to that situation you posted at the end of your quote in regards to health. The one you gave is best case scenario. I'm fine with playing Mahomes if he's healthy enough to play - the plan being to get rid of the ball as fast as possible, and the coaches sign off on it for the record. But, if he shows any sign of gimpiness you keep him out for the sake of the playoffs.
They have played 14 football games so far this season, if you hold out players for “gimpiness” you won’t be able to field a team.

That is a terrible metric to determine if a player should play or not.
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Even if the Chiefs lose tomorrow they win the next 2 games - they get #1 seed. So I don't understand this 'I'm increasing the injury risk over time...." statement you made when there are too many variables to say that if Chiefs lose (and they may not) that the season is basically over and they won't get the #1 seed.

Wentz is one of the better backups in the NFL, Reid knows how to design plays for him due to his time in Philly, and our D is solid. Chiefs are also at home. They can win w him.

And the strategic goal for this team is to win the SB, not get the #1 seed. Those are two very different things. Mahomes has repeatedly said what the goal for this team is this season and that's a SB victory.

That said I believe in Reid especially when it comes QBs. I've said that way before Mahomes got here, so I know he will make the right decision. I'm not overly worried about it. We'll see what happens.
If the Chiefs beat the Texans and Steelers, they can rest the starters against Denver. That's one less game of hits. And then they get a 1st round bye. That's another full game of hits.

It's basic math. The chances of him getting injured again go up with every game he plays. So does the risk to the rest of the team. The goal should always be to play as few games as needed. They ve played an entire season's worth of playoff games in the last 5 years. There's no reason to subject them to extra games, especially when there are no guarantees of anything.
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Even if the Chiefs lose tomorrow they win the next 2 games - they get #1 seed. So I don't understand this 'I'm increasing the injury risk over time...." statement you made when there are too many variables to say that if Chiefs lose (and they may not) that the season is basically over and they won't get the #1 seed.

Wentz is one of the better backups in the NFL, Reid knows how to design plays for him due to his time in Philly, and our D is solid. Chiefs are also at home. They can win w him.

And the strategic goal for this team is to win the SB, not get the #1 seed. Those are two very different things. Mahomes has repeatedly said what the goal for this team is this season and that's a SB victory.

That said I believe in Reid especially when it comes QBs. I've said that way before Mahomes got here, so I know he will make the right decision. I'm not overly worried about it. We'll see what happens.
If the goal is the Super Bowl, the #1 seed is overwhelmingly the best and fastest way there. That is supported by statistics and NFL history.
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Even if the Chiefs lose tomorrow they win the next 2 games - they get #1 seed. So I don't understand this 'I'm increasing the injury risk over time...." statement you made when there are too many variables to say that if Chiefs lose (and they may not) that the season is basically over and they won't get the #1 seed.
If the Chiefs lose to the Texans, why are you so sure it is a given that they win the next two?

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Wentz is one of the better backups in the NFL, Reid knows how to design plays for him due to his time in Philly, and our D is solid. Chiefs are also at home. They can win w him.

And the strategic goal for this team is to win the SB, not get the #1 seed. Those are two very different things. Mahomes has repeatedly said what the goal for this team is this season and that's a SB victory.

That said I believe in Reid especially when it comes QBs. I've said that way before Mahomes got here, so I know he will make the right decision. I'm not overly worried about it. We'll see what happens.
Uh, what? Reid was in KC a few years before Wentz was drafted.
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