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Old 03-09-2024, 09:42 PM  
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Old 03-10-2024, 08:29 PM   #361
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Only $36 million in dead money the last 2 years. Lot of protection there in the back half
"Only"?

Shit man, I thought the $24 in dead money I'd have loaded into the back was extremely. $36 million in dead money over 2 seasons is MASSIVE.
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Old 03-10-2024, 08:29 PM   #362
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Comparing to Von is definitely wishful thinking — Chris is still a few years younger than Von was when he signed, and doesn’t have the injury history Von had.

The far more likely outcome is Aaron Donald’s trajectory, who like Chris, didn’t have a bad injury history.

Chris of course is entering his age 30 season. When was Donald’s age 30 season you may wonder?

The year he carried the Rams to a Super Bowl victory.

Barring catastrophic injury, it’s at least 2025 before we see signs of slowing down and might be more like 2027 before we feel the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
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Old 03-10-2024, 08:32 PM   #363
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7.3m cap number this year is crazy
I see a four year contract with reasonable numbers.
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Old 03-10-2024, 08:39 PM   #364
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Reggie White signed with the packers when he was 31. He played 6 great seasons in GB. Reggie is the exception to the rule but it’s not unprecedented for a DT to continue to be highly productive in their early thirties.
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Old 03-10-2024, 09:03 PM   #366
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"Only"?

Shit man, I thought the $24 in dead money I'd have loaded into the back was extremely. $36 million in dead money over 2 seasons is MASSIVE.
Where are your figures coming from? I see only $12 in dead money after year three.
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Old 03-10-2024, 09:08 PM   #367
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Wait, am I reading this right… wouldn’t that year one cap hit be like $6.5M plus whatever proration is left from the last deal?
This contract has a 7.3 mil cap hit year one (6 mil in SB and 1.25 salary).

The previous contract has a 3.4 dead cap hit.

So in total Jones will be counting for about 10.7 against the cap.
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I love Chris Jones. For sure top 3 DT of my lifetime. I wanna get excited about this contract. I just can’t help but think the money could of been better spent somewhere else. It seems like everybody’s really happy and I hate to be that guy, idk..
I think the reason you feel that way is we need to see the offense get better. It hasn’t yet but hopefully we see some really good drafting and maybe a FA
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Where are your figures coming from? I see only $12 in dead money after year three.
The post I quoted. I have no idea if it's right.
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I think the reason you feel that way is we need to see the offense get better. It hasn’t yet but hopefully we see some really good drafting and maybe a FA
By signing Jones and Tranquil already, the defense is going to be good. Just need some depth along the DL and we’re ready to go.

If we get some form a veteran LT and a moderate WR, we’re in terrific shape for the draft.

The draft can realistically go 70-30 offense-defense without needing to reach for a glaring need.
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I think the reason you feel that way is we need to see the offense get better. It hasn’t yet but hopefully we see some really good drafting and maybe a FA
We will draft a WR, we have Jerry Rice already
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The post I quoted. I have no idea if it's right.
Ok. It's not.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...s-jones-18985/

If we want to cut him before the 4th season, we'd have a $12 mil dead cap hit.
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Chiefs are about $5 million over the cap with the Jones contract...expect some restructuring and or other roster moves in the next few days.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs
Only the top 51 count against the cap until training camp. So we have 1.5 mil still to the good with what we have right now.

Obviously that isn't enough to sign free agents (although deals can be made and the signings just delayed) or sign draft picks. But we aren't actually over the cap right now. We are cap compliant.

There are still 5 teams that have work to do to get under the cap by Wednesday: the 49ers, Saints, Bills, Chargers and Dolphins.
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So now that the smoke has cleared we have roughly $5 mil in cap space. A Sneed trade would put us around $26 mil. We could even restructure Patrick's contract and/or cut a guy like Justin Reid but I'd rather keep Reid.

All in all we're looking shockingly good if Sneed gets traded tomorrow morning.

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