New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[Dayze]

thanks.

[Bill Brasky]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Chip:Quote:
As Big East destabilizes, sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas is pushing for Notre Dame to move its "other"sports to B12.

This would be awful. I hope the big 12 tells texas to cram up their pooper because that move would pave the way for texas to follow suit and go independent in football.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Probably true. But given the vast value of what Texas athletics had become, you cannot say that there is a 100% chance of that occurring. I agree that the six year rolling agreement is as close to a true complete lockdown as you can get, I just don't think it is completely impossible to get out of. When there is that much money involved, there seems to always be a way to bend the rules in your favor.

so the argument for a rolling 6 yr term is that anyone but Texas would be hard pressed to get out of it?

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

so the argument for a rolling 6 yr term is that anyone but Texas would be hard pressed to get out of it?

The reality is is that Texas will have enough money to get out of just about anything. The only thing you can really do is make as cost prohibitive as possible to make Texas at least think about it before they take off.

The rolling 6 yr term would be as close to ironclad as possible, even for Texas...but other than Texas, do you see any other school that would even think about trying to break it?

[|Zach|]

TCU to the Big 12?

All about the pointy ball.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Any decision on the decision to make a decision to make a decision? Yet?

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

TCU to the Big 12?

All about the pointy ball.

TCU is pretty awful at basketball aren't they? I think I read somewhere there was some doubt that they could win more than one or two games in Big East play.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Any decision on the decision to make a decision to make a decision? Yet?

Nope, it has been decided that they are not deciding yet LOL.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

TCU is pretty awful at basketball aren't they? I think I read somewhere there was some doubt that they could win more than one or two games in Big East play.

Doesn't matter. KSU had a B12 road record under Asbury/Wooly of 4 and 100,000. In one year of Huggins that all changed. You can turn around a CBBall program that quickly.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Doesn't matter. KSU had a B12 road record under Asbury/Wooly of 4 and 100,000. In one year of Huggins that all changed. You can turn around a CBBall program that quickly.

Same could be said about OBZ taking over your FB program, no?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Doesn't matter. KSU had a B12 road record under Asbury/Wooly of 4 and 100,000. In one year of Huggins that all changed. You can turn around a CBBall program that quickly.

And Snyder turned around KSU football, so might as well invite Tulane as well. This game is fun.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Doesn't matter. KSU had a B12 road record under Asbury/Wooly of 4 and 100,000. In one year of Huggins that all changed. You can turn around a CBBall program that quickly.

I don't think it matters. College BBall does turn around much quicker than football. I am sure the influx of money from the BIG XII tv contract will help TCU get some better BBall recruits and a better coach.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

And Snyder turned around KSU football, so might as well invite Tulane as well. This game is fun.

Only if Bill Snyder goes and turns them around. Tulane is pretty bad. I hate K-State as a rival and opponent, but Bill Snyder's turnaround of that program is one of the greatest in all of sports. K-State was an embarrassment in football for my lifetime, and my parents lifetime before Snyder came.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by eazyb81
And Snyder turned around KSU football, so might as well invite Tulane as well. This game is fun.

OBZ took a 5-7 team to 6-6 last season. He didn't so anything special.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

TCU is pretty awful at basketball aren't they? I think I read somewhere there was some doubt that they could win more than one or two games in Big East play.

Yea, we're pretty bad at basketball but TCU and it's boosters are serious about stepping that program up to the level of our other sports.

The impending big least move immediately paid off in the type of recruits we have been able to at least consider TCU. Moving to the big 12 will keep that trend up.