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Old 11-22-2024, 09:18 AM  
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Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries [signed by Chiefs]
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:01 PM   #3526
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Thuney is not "risky."

Risky is starting the guy who is on tape giving up IMMEDIATE pressure to defensive ends and getting Mahomes and Wentz killed.

Thuney hasn't done that.

The Bills don't have prime Warren Sapp, this is not a concern.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:01 PM   #3527
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I have been for Thuney at LT since we made the switch but he def did not have a good game against the Texans.

That said, and there's guys in this argument that won't accept this....if Humphries was an actual upgrade over Thuney HE'D BE PLAYING. Facts.

He wasn't great against the Chargers. Then got hurt.

Then was just ok for a half against the Broncos. Then absolutely terrible for a half.

We're in the AFCCG....it's absurd that some want to talk about switching left tackles to a guy that has shown the above this season
The point is the run game has suffered. So if Joe is stinking up the joint at LT why suffer in two spots? Andy is just being conservative imo by keeping Joe out there and it may be a tough decision to swallow if we can't run the ball on Sunday.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:14 PM   #3528
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I have to say it again, I wouldnt be surprised if DJ starts this game at LT.

Houstons Edge guys are a tough matchup for any Tackle. Throwing him out there against those guys could set him back in confidence and it was to risky for Mahomes's sake.

DJ is or was a Probowl LT, Hes been practicing and conditioning for awhile now. Buffalo has edge guys that DJ matches up much better with.

We dont need him to be a probowl LT, just better than a Guard playing out of position.

This just makes to much sense. 5 of 5 lineman return to their natural positions, giving us the best line weve had all year. Gives Buffalo a little surprise that they havent prepared for.

I think Andy wanted DJ to play last week but the opponents strength at edge dictated otherwise. We have an above average LT, healthy and ready to go.

Yes we are asking a lot from him but now that Houston has been eliminated, its time to start him.

Call me crazy!
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:21 PM   #3529
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Thuney is not "risky."

Risky is starting the guy who is on tape giving up IMMEDIATE pressure to defensive ends and getting Mahomes and Wentz killed.

Thuney hasn't done that.

The Bills don't have prime Warren Sapp, this is not a concern.
Thuney absolutely is risky. There's always a risk when you're playing a guy out of position.

He's just less risky than DJ at this point. It is what it is.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:22 PM   #3530
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If he's healthy, he needs to start...unless he's washed. That's the only explanation at this point...he's had weeks to get up to speed/conditioned.

They dont need an all-world LT...just serviceable enough to not ruin plays.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:28 PM   #3531
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They are not going to change up the OL unless things get bad in game. Thuney is the starter at LT.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:29 PM   #3532
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Thuney is not "risky."

Risky is starting the guy who is on tape giving up IMMEDIATE pressure to defensive ends and getting Mahomes and Wentz killed.

Thuney hasn't done that.

The Bills don't have prime Warren Sapp, this is not a concern.
From what we've seen humphries is riskier than thuney at LT. But theres still upside that humphries can play well enough that the gap can be closed because we know he was a good LT pre injury. I don't think theres any doubt thuney is a substantial upgrade over caliendo.

The risk is putting an adequate LT next to an backup guard against Ed Oliver and a team that loves to blitz their LBs.

One scenario gives you a hall of famer player and a question mark. The other is a safe option with average play from both of these guys. It's not nearly as easy a decision unless the chiefs just don't think Humphries is ready which is entirely possible
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:31 PM   #3533
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I have to say it again, I wouldnt be surprised if DJ starts this game at LT.

Houstons Edge guys are a tough matchup for any Tackle. Throwing him out there against those guys could set him back in confidence and it was to risky for Mahomes's sake.

DJ is or was a Probowl LT, Hes been practicing and conditioning for awhile now. Buffalo has edge guys that DJ matches up much better with.

We dont need him to be a probowl LT, just better than a Guard playing out of position.

This just makes to much sense. 5 of 5 lineman return to their natural positions, giving us the best line weve had all year. Gives Buffalo a little surprise that they havent prepared for.

I think Andy wanted DJ to play last week but the opponents strength at edge dictated otherwise. We have an above average LT, healthy and ready to go.

Yes we are asking a lot from him but now that Houston has been eliminated, its time to start him.

Call me crazy!
Humphries is a one time pro bowler. It's not like he was some perennial pro bowler.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:32 PM   #3534
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You're such a dishonest bitch. You're subtracting the end of half and end of game drives for the last game, but not the first one. The Chiefs had 52 seconds at the end of the half to score and actually got a FG, so take those points away and both the end of half drives.

So game one they scored on 4/7 drives. 3.4 points per drive

Leave the end of half drive and it's 5/8 and 3.4 ppd still.

Also if they needed it in game one they score a TD at the end there.

The offensive performance wasn't better at all.
False.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You twisted the stats to suit a narrative.

Game one they CLEARLY had nine drives. There were no kneeldown drives with the team comfortably ahead.

You didn't even address the yards per play.
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From what we've seen humphries is riskier than thuney at LT. But theres still upside that humphries can play well enough that the gap can be closed because we know he was a good LT pre injury. I don't think theres any doubt thuney is a substantial upgrade over caliendo.

The risk is putting an adequate LT next to an backup guard against Ed Oliver and a team that loves to blitz their LBs.

One scenario gives you a hall of famer player and a question mark. The other is a safe option with average play from both of these guys. It's not nearly as easy a decision unless the chiefs just don't think Humphries is ready which is entirely possible
Was he really that "good" pre injury? He had one pro bowl and making the pro bowl isn't hard, especially just one time.

He's also a broke dick that had a major back injury before blowing out his knee.

If Andy thought he was even average at LT, then he'd be out there. I'm gonna go with Andy on this.
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Old 01-23-2025, 01:42 PM   #3536
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If he's healthy, he needs to start...unless he's washed. That's the only explanation at this point...he's had weeks to get up to speed/conditioned.

They dont need an all-world LT...just serviceable enough to not ruin plays.
It's entirely possible he's just washed at this point. He has looked pretty meh in his limited snaps and they have seen him in practice for months now.

I was one of his biggest supporters, but I'm over it at this point. He clearly just isn't worth their time.
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Humphries is a one time pro bowler. It's not like he was some perennial pro bowler.
The point was that he was good enough to make the probowl. Which at the very least means he is or was an above average LT.

We arent even asking for that level of play, we just need him to be average and let our perennial probowl LG go back to his position.

It makes sense now that we are passed Houston and it adds a wrinkle that Buffalo may not be expecting. Thats a total Andy move!
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It's weird af to me that the Caliendo guys got what they wanted yet are still so damn defensive. Calm down. Damn.
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Was he really that "good" pre injury? He had one pro bowl and making the pro bowl isn't hard, especially just one time.

He's also a broke dick that had a major back injury before blowing out his knee.

If Andy thought he was even average at LT, then he'd be out there. I'm gonna go with Andy on this.
He certainly wasn't this bad. It's a question mark, but rushing him out there before fully conditioned, injury recovery, midseason chemistry and communication, then playing with backups are all reasonable excuses that can improve with time and reps.

Him not being out there could very well have been due to riding the hot hand and matchup. You don't put a question mark against houston especially after thuney did fine against them a few weeks earlier. This week, both of those stories are just a little bit different.

I'll trust Andy's judgment if he isn't out there. But I think it's plenty possible he's better than what he's shown and the extra time helped. He doesn't need to be his pro bowl self. If he can play two halves like the first half in Denver it's probably good enough considering the huge upgrade we get to make at LG
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Ed Oliver on Caliendo gives me a serious pause.
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