Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

This whole thread is kind of pointless, because after what just happened to Patrick AGAIN in the Super Bowl AGAIN, there should be no expense spared, both player/draft pick wise or salary wise, to acquire the absolute best LT that possibly comes available this offseason in their eyes. There is no discussion. Get the best goddamn left tackle there is. I don't even care if you have to trade McDuffie like was suggested, just ****ing do it.

This franchise needs to be very careful how they move forward. Pat just saw what's possible when you have a GM and owner who are actually willing to do whatever it takes to put the absolute best team on the field, and just what kind of team could still be built if this franchise was handling things the way they should instead of using Pat as their crutch to cover the countless warts he has for 5 years now. He's going to be 30 soon, and enough is enough.

It was the entire O-line, not just LT tbh. but I get your point.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

This whole thread is kind of pointless, because after what just happened to Patrick AGAIN in the Super Bowl AGAIN, there should be no expense spared, both player/draft pick wise or salary wise, to acquire the absolute best LT that possibly comes available this offseason in their eyes. There is no discussion. Get the best goddamn left tackle there is. I don't even care if you have to trade McDuffie like was suggested, just ****ing do it.

This franchise needs to be very careful how they move forward. Pat just saw what's possible when you have a GM and owner who are actually willing to do whatever it takes to put the absolute best team on the field, and just what kind of team could still be built if this franchise was handling things the way they should instead of using Pat as their crutch to cover the countless warts he has for 5 years now. He's going to be 30 soon, and enough is enough.

We spent two years of Mahomes prime making him throw to practice squad WR's or this year with a OL that could not block.

[htismaqe]

I'm not sure I can stomach the entirety of the All 22 but early in the game the left side of the line was worse than anything else in the field. Thuney's back was hitting Mahomes on every other play it seemed like. I think the o line as a whole had issues but the LT/LG situation was just a disaster.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We spent two years of Mahomes prime making him throw to practice squad WR's or this year with a OL that could not block.

Yea totally wasted two years of Mahomes prime winning a SB and going to another!

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

This whole thread is kind of pointless, because after what just happened to Patrick AGAIN in the Super Bowl AGAIN, there should be no expense spared, both player/draft pick wise or salary wise, to acquire the absolute best LT that possibly comes available this offseason in their eyes. There is no discussion. Get the best goddamn left tackle there is. I don't even care if you have to trade McDuffie like was suggested, just ****ing do it.

This franchise needs to be very careful how they move forward. Pat just saw what's possible when you have a GM and owner who are actually willing to do whatever it takes to put the absolute best team on the field, and just what kind of team could still be built if this franchise was handling things the way they should instead of using Pat as their crutch to cover the countless warts he has for 5 years now. He's going to be 30 soon, and enough is enough.

I think this is a little extreme. Yeah do better but its not like there hasn't been an effort. They've invested a 2,3,2 traded a 1 with kick back for obj, tried to pay him more than he got on the open market, tried to trade for Trent Williams and haven't had a viable first round tackle option even where they've traded up. There's a lot more to it than just go get a good one. The best ones have all been developed maybe 1 in 10 start day one and are "Good". What they need to do is get Kinsley to Duke Mannywether right ****ing now and hope for improvement before FA and the draft. The kid has the size he was just mentally overwhelmed.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea totally wasted two years of Mahomes prime winning a SB and going to another!

somehow we are wasting his prime years by going to the AFC championship game every year since he became the starter while acquiring 3 superbowl rings.

Some people are so spoiled at our success as a franchise.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea totally wasted two years of Mahomes prime winning a SB and going to another!

Reading comprehension not your strong suit.


Don't put words in my mouth.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

This whole thread is kind of pointless, because after what just happened to Patrick AGAIN in the Super Bowl AGAIN, there should be no expense spared, both player/draft pick wise or salary wise, to acquire the absolute best LT that possibly comes available this offseason in their eyes. There is no discussion. Get the best goddamn left tackle there is. I don't even care if you have to trade McDuffie like was suggested, just ****ing do it.

This franchise needs to be very careful how they move forward. Pat just saw what's possible when you have a GM and owner who are actually willing to do whatever it takes to put the absolute best team on the field, and just what kind of team could still be built if this franchise was handling things the way they should instead of using Pat as their crutch to cover the countless warts he has for 5 years now. He's going to be 30 soon, and enough is enough.

What is pointless are your childish rants.

Be better.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

somehow we are wasting his prime years by going to the AFC championship game every year since he became the starter while acquiring 3 superbowl rings.

Some people are so spoiled at our success as a franchise.

I think some people think he should be throwing for 5400 yards and 55+ TD's every year.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not sure I can stomach the entirety of the All 22 but early in the game the left side of the line was worse than anything else in the field. Thuney's back was hitting Mahomes on every other play it seemed like. I think the o line as a whole had issues but the LT/LG situation was just a disaster.

The folks on CP who were worried about Humphries not getting snaps at LT during practice before the super bowl were spot on...I didn't think it would be THAT bad. I thought it was going to be close but we would pull it out in the end.

[MahomesMagic]

You can win with a an offensive roster, a balanced roster, and a defensive roster.


Glad we won 2 of the last 3 SB's with a defensive roster. But I don't think Veach wanted to make the offense this weak.

It just naturally happened.

I think it's time to recalibrate and build up the offense because scoring points relieves a lot of pressure on the defense. It's hard to play defense when your offense goes 15-16 drives without a TD (last year) or can't get a drive going in a first half (this year).

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And Cam Robinson fits that mold almost exactly.

Yup. Robinson will be risky based on cost vs ROI. If folks are not happy with Taylor based on what he’s being paid, I am not so sure that they will be pleased with Robinson.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think some people think he should be throwing for 5400 yards and 55+ TD's every year.

Gaining more than 24 yards of total offense in the first half… not an unreasonable expectation.

Not going 16 straight offensive possessions without scoring a TD… not an unreasonable expectation.

The Chiefs offense has been mediocre during the past two seasons despite having Mahomes in the prime of his career.

They were able to overcome their offensive struggles with an elite defense last year.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

You can win with a an offensive roster, a balanced roster, and a defensive roster.


Glad we won 2 of the last 3 SB's with a defensive roster. But I don't think Veach wanted to make the offense this weak.

It just naturally happened.

I think it's time to recalibrate and build up the offense because scoring points relieves a lot of pressure on the defense. It's hard to play defense when your offense goes 15-16 drives without a TD (last year) or can't get a drive going in a first half (this year).

Just need a good O-line and a good defense, Mahomes will elevate everyone else if we give him that...

There's a reason they say that with enough time, WR's eventually get open no matter what... The problem is, most QB's only get like 2-3 seconds to throw the ball, Mahomes was getting no seconds.

I too would love to see a high-powered offense that just outscores everyone like Mahomes' first year, or Manning with the Broncos, but the reality is that defense typically wins you the championship, and that was on full display by the eagles last weekend regardless if our O-line was shit.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

This whole thread is kind of pointless, because after what just happened to Patrick AGAIN in the Super Bowl AGAIN, there should be no expense spared, both player/draft pick wise or salary wise, to acquire the absolute best LT that possibly comes available this offseason in their eyes. There is no discussion. Get the best goddamn left tackle there is. I don't even care if you have to trade McDuffie like was suggested, just ****ing do it.

This franchise needs to be very careful how they move forward. Pat just saw what's possible when you have a GM and owner who are actually willing to do whatever it takes to put the absolute best team on the field, and just what kind of team could still be built if this franchise was handling things the way they should instead of using Pat as their crutch to cover the countless warts he has for 5 years now. He's going to be 30 soon, and enough is enough.

Easier said than done. You don't want to give away too much capital to move up into the Top 10 of the Draft. And even if you do that, there is a serious risk the guy will be a mega bust. Eric Fisher was a #1 overall Draft pick and never really lived up to the hype, even though he was a solid player and Mahomes trusted him.

I don't think they will have great options through free agency or trading to get a veteran player either. You'll end up overpaying for a dude that isn't great (another Jawaan Taylor) or has injury baggage that might blow up in your face (DJ Humphries, Ronnie Stanley/Cam Robinson??).

Maybe they just need to get lucky with Kingsley or Wanya or some other draft pick magically turning into a solid guy at this position. The team has had its share of bad luck at this position ever since Eric Fisher's injury. Maybe one of these days their luck will turn around.