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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:12 AM   #3406
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I like MVS but he's as good as gone next year. We can't pay $14 million to a guy doing as little as he does.

At that point just try to bring Mecole back.
I'd imagine Justin Reid is gone next year as well, and Chamarri Connor steps into that role.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:13 AM   #3407
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This is 2023. Offense wins championships. I'm not sure if we can score enough vs the Fins, 49ers, Eagles and Bills. Its easier for a good defense to shut down a bad offense. A good offense is still gonna score.
The years the Chiefs have won the SB has been the years they have their best defenses of this regime's tenure and the other years they haven't.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:17 AM   #3408
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The years the Chiefs have won the SB has been the years they have their best defenses of this regime's tenure and the other years they haven't.
Yeah. We didn't start winning Super Bowls (or even went to a Super Bowl) without Spags reinventing the defense. A top-3 offense isn't a hard requirement. It helps, but its not required.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:18 AM   #3409
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How people feel is irrelevant. Winning like we have been this year is no different than winning shootouts where whoever gets the ball last wins.
Except it is because we know that late in games our best weapon is mahomes with the ball in his hands. Our defense as great as they’ve been… they shouldn’t be carrying the offense into the late 4th quarter. I would rather have our offense carry a defense than to shoot for balance where they give/take.

Our offense at its best can be immune to bad games. It is way harder for our defense to avoid bad games especially in the playoffs where even against great defenses good QBs will have games where they play out of their minds. So yeah, we will be fine, but I disagree with O.City’s idea that we build greatness everywhere and then use the leftover pieces to build up our passing game. I think our top motivation is to build up the best possible passing game (within reason) so that you need way less of the defense.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:22 AM   #3410
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Except it is because we know that late in games our best weapon is mahomes with the ball in his hands. Our defense as great as they’ve been… they shouldn’t be carrying the offense into the late 4th quarter. I would rather have our offense carry a defense than to shoot for balance where they give/take.

Our offense at its best can be immune to bad games. It is way harder for our defense to avoid bad games especially in the playoffs where even against great defenses good QBs will have games where they play out of their minds. So yeah, we will be fine, but I disagree with O.City’s idea that we build greatness everywhere and then use the leftover pieces to build up our passing game. I think our top motivation is to build up the best possible passing game (within reason) so that you need way less of the defense.
I'm curious where I've made that my idea?

The goal is to have as well rounded of a team as you can. Not "build this" or "Build that". We've literally seen them put the best passing game in the league out there and not win with it, so they had to go build the defense to get stops. That best passing game in the league, got shutout for an entire half in the playoffs.

It was also built when the QB didn't cost 55 million dollars a year.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:22 AM   #3411
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Yeah, it's a top 10 defense with a top 5 offense and peopel are.....uncomfortable
Cmon now… just because the stats say we are a top 5 offense doesn’t mean we’re playing like one. Be an optimist all you want but let’s not sugarcoat that our pass offense right now has not been very good. Let alone the greatness standard we expect from a mahomes and Reid led offense
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:23 AM   #3412
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Cmon now… just because the stats say we are a top 5 offense doesn’t mean we’re playing like one. Be an optimist all you want but let’s not sugarcoat that our pass offense right now has not been very good. Let alone the greatness standard we expect from a mahomes and Reid led offense
Advanced stats say they are. Regular stats say they are.

They aren't an all time great offense. If that's your expectation, well, that's a you problem.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:25 AM   #3413
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Mecole isn't going to replace MVS

He was still here a year ago and they went out of their way to sign MVS because they had little trust in Hardman.
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Mecole isn't going to replace MVS

He was still here a year ago and they went out of their way to sign MVS because they had little trust in Hardman.
Watson will replace MVS
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Watson will replace MVS
you guys are ****ing off your rockers
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you guys are ****ing off your rockers
They can save too much money by cutting MVS in the offseason to keep him around to pull coverages.
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Cmon now… just because the stats say we are a top 5 offense doesn’t mean we’re playing like one. Be an optimist all you want but let’s not sugarcoat that our pass offense right now has not been very good. Let alone the greatness standard we expect from a mahomes and Reid led offense
Bingo. Even when not at the 'greatness standard,' we're still ranking as a top-5 offense. You have helped prove the point!
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Advanced stats say they are. Regular stats say they are.

They aren't an all time great offense. If that's your expectation, well, that's a you problem.
The 2019 Patriots offense was quite good - top 5 in most major categories. But it wasn't the death star it was in 2012. Instead they relied on a dependable, more workmanlike offense and an opportunistic defense that could get the stops when they needed to. Oh, and help from the officials.

And they won a championship.

This isn't the 2018/2019 Chiefs offense but fellas it doesn't need to be. Teams evolve and GREAT teams evolve in ways where they are still finding ways to win ballgames.

Most teams don't look functionally similar to a team that came 3 years before it, let along 4 or 5. And this one shouldn't be expected to either.

Would I like us to be a 32 pt/gm team? Yeah - but that just wasn't ever realistic. We had to make decisions with the roster as the team evolved. Most of 'em have been pretty damn good ones.
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They can save too much money by cutting MVS in the offseason to keep him around to pull coverages.
And who will do it once he's gone? It's not going to be Watson. Get real.
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