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Old 12-15-2024, 03:51 PM  
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Let’s talk about the Texans
They are good and tough, noon game at Arrowhead. Your thoughts?
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:24 PM   #316
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If it convinces him to sit at the back of his drop and run the offense a bit more, it's not the worst thing that could happen.

Hell, even if it means he just throws more balls away, it can't be much uglier than it's been.

I just can't see the offense getting uglier at this point, honestly.
You can't see it getting uglier than leading the league in 3rd down conversion rate by a mile? Or ranking highly in success rate?

It can get a lot uglier than that.
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:29 PM   #317
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It's weird to suddenly see so much apathy regarding the 1 seed.

It's massively important under any circumstances, but especially for this team.
Oh the 1 seed is absolutely vital.

I'm just saying that I don't know that the sit/start decision actually impacts it much.

Mahomes hasn't been winning games with his arm. He's been moving around and making plays. Sometimes he's just flat been running the ball to close these out.

Well if he can't do that against Texas, I don't see him as being any more or less likely to win that game than Wentz. If the offensive line is the horrid shit-show that's been alleged, then Wentz is actually likely to be MORE mobile than Mahomes and can likely more closely approximate what Mahomes has done to this point than PM could on 1 leg.

And if the OL isn't...well then Wentz can actually probably run the offense better than PM has done of late while he's been seeing ghosts and moving himself into pressure.

I just don't think the QB decision will ultimately determine the outcome against Houston, that's all. It's come down to the defense and a couple of critical offensive plays that I don't think Wentz is any less likely to make than a compromised Mahomes is.
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:30 PM   #318
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It's weird to suddenly see so much apathy regarding the 1 seed.

It's massively important under any circumstances, but especially for this team.

A lot of people don’t comprehend how razor thin our run was last year. Since 2018, teams that score 17 or fewer points in the playoffs are 4-28. We won on the road in a championship game doing that. You have to go back to the 2000 Ravens the last time a team won their conference championship with scoring less than 20 points when they won scoring 16 points.
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:34 PM   #319
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You can't see it getting uglier than leading the league in 3rd down conversion rate by a mile? Or ranking highly in success rate?

It can get a lot uglier than that.
We just created 6 turnovers and those yielded 14 of our 21 points.

No, it really cannot and will not get any worse than that. The Chiefs had 1 legitimate drive the entire day on Sunday. The rest was just short field stuff that we can't count on most weeks.

We had FIFTEEN drives on Sunday and got 21 points. Araiza had nine punts. A terrible team punts 5 teams most games. On average you're looking at about 3.5/gm.

I mean the floor CAN'T be much lower than the shit-fest we saw on Sunday. So no, I have a hard time believing we'll be any worse with Wentz.
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:47 PM   #320
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This team has been getting by scoring around 20 PPG. If Wentz drops that by even three points, a win becomes a loss.
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:49 PM   #321
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Old 12-16-2024, 04:56 PM   #322
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We are +2 underdogs at home. Im eating all that up and more
I'd be careful...something is off with that.

What does Vegas know that we dont...I can assure you that the NFL doesnt want KC resting starters in the final week.

I wouldn't touch this game...

There is a good chance..if KC gets HFA ..that the Texans are their opponent in the divisional. Certainly would drive ratings...right?

What has Houston done to warrant a 5 point road cushion (home team gets 3) in the past few weeks? Especially with Brown supposedly returning..
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I'd be careful...something is off with that.

What does Vegas know that we dont...I can assure you that the NFL doesnt want KC resting starters in the final week.

I wouldn't touch this game...
Vegas knows that Mahomes has injury issues but im comfident to take us +2 at home even if Wentz is playin.
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We just created 6 turnovers and those yielded 14 of our 21 points.

No, it really cannot and will not get any worse than that. The Chiefs had 1 legitimate drive the entire day on Sunday. The rest was just short field stuff that we can't count on most weeks.

We had FIFTEEN drives on Sunday and got 21 points. Araiza had nine punts. A terrible team punts 5 teams most games. On average you're looking at about 3.5/gm.

I mean the floor CAN'T be much lower than the shit-fest we saw on Sunday. So no, I have a hard time believing we'll be any worse with Wentz.
I just don't get why people don't get this. Pat was playing like ass before he got hurt. The offense was a mess for most of the day. We got away with it because Cleveland. The Texans ain't the Browns.

I've said it all along and I'll keep saying it. Give Pat a breather, let him get right, or if nothing else a little less wrong, and see what Wentz can do. I'm not suggesting we bench him. There is no quarterback controversy here. I'd rather have a fresh Mahomes playing on Christmas in Pittsburgh, not an even more beat up Mahomes playing on four days rest.

But I fear Pat will probably play if he's physically able. And I don't think it will bode well. I kind of feel like Longstreet telling Lee not to attack the center.
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I just don't get why people don't get this. Pat was playing like ass before he got hurt. The offense was a mess for most of the day. We got away with it because Cleveland. The Texans ain't the Browns.

I've said it all along and I'll keep saying it. Give Pat a breather, let him get right, or if nothing else a little less wrong, and see what Wentz can do. I'm not suggesting we bench him. There is no quarterback controversy here. I'd rather have a fresh Mahomes playing on Christmas in Pittsburgh, not an even more beat up Mahomes playing on four days rest.

But I fear Pat will probably play if he's physically able. And I don't think it will bode well. I kind of feel like Longstreet telling Lee not to attack the center.
This is the kind of prudent, risk-mitigating thinking that the organization should be following going into Saturday's game given Mahomes' injury. Unfortunately, fear has dictated the thoughts of so many in this thread.
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Exactly.

People have convinced themselves that Patrick is going to get hurt so bad that he misses playoff games when in reality, the chances of that are very, very low.

I'm shocked that there so many people that still suffer from "because Chiefs".
So there’s no chance with our porous OL that’s been getting Patrick pressured and sacked at an alarming rate, while he’s on a bad ankle… vs the team with the second most sacks in the league… he absolutely won’t get injured worse?
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I'd be careful...something is off with that.

What does Vegas know that we dont...I can assure you that the NFL doesnt want KC resting starters in the final week.

I wouldn't touch this game...

There is a good chance..if KC gets HFA ..that the Texans are their opponent in the divisional. Certainly would drive ratings...right?

What has Houston done to warrant a 5 point road cushion (home team gets 3) in the past few weeks? Especially with Brown supposedly returning..
Vegas wants jackasses to go in on Houston with the Chiefs winning. Not that hard to see.
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Vegas wants jackasses to go in on Houston with the Chiefs winning. Not that hard to see.
Why would anyone bet on the Texans winning by 6 points in Arrowhead?

I would think everyone would be taking KC and the 2 points...which means Vegas will lose it's ass if KC wins or loses by 1.

This spread doesn't make sense...
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