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Old 06-22-2017, 02:12 PM  
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Dorsey gone?
Per 610.

The ****?
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #316
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I don't think it's a stretch at all. Given the timing, it fits under Occam's Razor. Doesn't mean it's the reason, but I could see it, especially with Mahomes now, Reid would have the leverage, figuring that the team needs him to coach the young QB more than it needs Dorsey.
Clark Hunt has repeatedly stated that it was important to lock up Dorsey and Reid to extensions.

In the meantime, Dorsey's name has been in play to replace Ted Thompson in Green Bay for the better part of a year.

I think it's highly likely that Dorsey refused to sign an extension because he wanted to see where Green Bay stood in 2018 and in doing so, Clark decided to fire him and move forward.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #317
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So now Andy Reid is basically the QB Coach,OC,HC and GM?
The GM is vacant
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #318
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Dorsey scouted and wanted Mahomes since last year. Reid just went along with it
Reid's words: "That's Brett Favre. I want him."
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #319
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And just watch we when the super bowl next year with smith as our QB
I'll be the first to eat crow if we do.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #320
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You don't let your gm make a big trade up for Mahomes if you aren't planning to keep him. Something happened
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:03 PM   #321
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:03 PM   #322
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Hypothetical speaking. If we win a super bowl with smith as QB there is no way you start Mahomes right?
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:03 PM   #323
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You cannot expect a GM to come in with that chicken shit of a roster and expect him to start winning immediately and NOT have the cap bear some strain. That's the nature of the beast, especially when the roster depth he inherited was absolute garbage and he had to hit the market to even put a credible product on the field.

The man took the reigns of a 2-14 team with zero credible NFL quarterbacks on the roster and in the next 4 years averaged 11 wins/season and went to the playoffs three times.

What in the actual **** happened to measuring a person's performance by the totality of the circumstances?

No, you're just wrong. This absolutely 'should be surprising' because it's ****ing idiotic. You do not fire a guy that was instrumental in the turnaround that this team has gone through. Because if this is Clark's way of doing things, we're going to be Al Davis's 'fire and forget', unstable as **** Raiders in real short order.
Dorsey clearly made mistakes but his hits definitely outweighed his misses, which I described playing Devil's Advocate.

That said, I think this is all about Green Bay and a non-commitment to the Chiefs moreso than any misses.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:03 PM   #324
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Clark Hunt has repeatedly stated that it was important to lock up Dorsey and Reid to extensions.

In the meantime, Dorsey's name has been in play to replace Ted Thompson in Green Bay for the better part of a year.

I think it's highly likely that Dorsey refused to sign an extension because he wanted to see where Green Bay stood in 2018 and in doing so, Clark decided to fire him and move forward.
I think that's also a plausible explanation. Just don't think DJ's theory was that far out there either.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:04 PM   #325
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The franchise that kept crappy GM's such as Jack Steadman and Carl Peterson on board for decades, suddenly decides to get impatient with a generally successful (although certainly not perfect) GM in Dorsey.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:04 PM   #326
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I don't think Ballard would have been picked. Dorsey brought Ballard in, not Andy.

Brett Veach was a guy Andy brought over to be on Dorsey's team. He's his guy.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:05 PM   #327
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I'll wait and see his replacement before I completely lose my shit.
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Hypothetical speaking. If we win a super bowl with smith as QB there is no way you start Mahomes right?
Smith will be happy to go out on top. Key words being GO OUT.. retire.. done.

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I'll wait and see his replacement before I completely lose my shit.
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Who would you guys want to be the new gm?
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