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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:16 PM   #3256
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Again, that's open fellas.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:21 PM   #3257
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Again, that's open fellas.
Yikes. That first one is WIDE the **** open.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:23 PM   #3258
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Again, that's open fellas.
So was McKinnon, with a better matchup. The LB made a phenomenal play, else that's a big gainer.

Skyy broke wide open as Mahomes switched targets. When he saw the MLB look like a blitz, then have to turn & trail Jet, it became a no-brainer. They also had the two receivers on the left side of the formation clear the area for McKinnon. If not for that impressive recovery by the LB, Jet was gone. Probably a designed play to go to the RB.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:27 PM   #3259
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McKinnon is an afterthough check down after a chip block there. That's not designed.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:30 PM   #3260
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McKinnon is an afterthough check down after a chip block there. That's not designed.
That was not a chip down block. That was a delayed route... and it was cleared by the left side receivers. Watch the video... looks like they executed it nearly to perfection. Mahomes had to go all arm as he had pressure coming down and could not step into the pass.
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God damn guys. This isn't that hard. Throw the ****ing ball Pat.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:31 PM   #3262
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So was McKinnon, with a better matchup. The LB made a phenomenal play, else that's a big gainer.

Skyy broke wide open as Mahomes switched targets. When he saw the MLB look like a blitz, then have to turn & trail Jet, it became a no-brainer. They also had the two receivers on the left side of the formation clear the area for McKinnon. If not for that impressive recovery by the LB, Jet was gone. Probably a designed play to go to the RB.
That 'window' for a back-shoulder pass is going to get impossibly small. The DB isn't out of phase with him and that's a really easy play to cut under. Moreover, Moore is small. His catch radius on a back-shoulder play is tiny.

I don't blame Mahomes for not throwing that ball, it's as likely to get picked/deflected as it is to get caught. Coming off that read is the right play.

If that's the kind of 'open' the "He was open 8 times!" crowd is seeing, that ain't a great argument.

The open I saw was typically on quick hitters and clear outs. 3-5 yard gains. But on a couple of them they'd have been first downs so I wish he'd have pulled the trigger there.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:31 PM   #3263
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Again, that's open fellas.


So, in the 2nd clip:

Yeah, Skyy gets open.

However, there's two issues that probably canceled Skyy as far as Pat was concerned.

One, that's not an easy throw. Pat would have to lay that between Skyy and the DB, who's just a couple yards away. if he doesn't' dot Skyy, the DB could make a play.


Two, in the moment that he could pull the trigger, his OL is getting pushed right back into him. He can't step into the pass. So he's going to lose a little in terms of both accuracy and velocity. Or the DL might get a hand on it. I think that's why Pat doesn't throw that ball to Skyy there.

Again, just my opinion, but that's what it looks like to me.
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The slot guy is running the dig to hold the safety. Pat is looking right the entire time and can't step into the pass because he held the ball to long and pressure got there.
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That 'window' for a back-shoulder pass is going to get impossibly small. The DB isn't out of phase with him and that's a really easy play to cut under. Moreover, Moore is small. His catch radius on a back-shoulder play is tiny.

I don't blame Mahomes for not throwing that ball, it's as likely to get picked/deflected as it is to get caught. Coming off that read is the right play.

If that's the kind of 'open' the "He was open 8 times!" crowd is seeing, that ain't a great argument.

The open I saw was typically on quick hitters and clear outs. 3-5 yard gains. But on a couple of them they'd have been first downs so I wish he'd have pulled the trigger there.
Pause it at the 4 second mark in the clip. They switch it, his defender isn't in phase and is facing in with, 3 yards in between.

I mean.....am I taking crazy pills?
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He'd let it go when Skyy is at the 25, ball gets there at the 31. He's running full speed at a defender with his feet stopped.......guys stop grading this on the curve.
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He'd let it go when Skyy is at the 25, ball gets there at the 31. He's running full speed at a defender with his feet stopped.......guys stop grading this on the curve.


Pause the clip when Skyy steps on the 25 (a titch past :03 sec). Where exactly should Pat throw that ball? Take that NFL logo on the 25 and move it up to use as a landmark for us. Minding the fact that at about :04.5 seconds our OL is getting pushed into Pat's feet.
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According to Simms our WR's had trouble separating. Specifically pointed at Moore. Says Toney is the only one that could create separation lined up 1v1.

Toney off his game + No Kelce = deep doodoo as per Simms.
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Safety dropped to help w/ Skyy, so Mahomes had the dig open as well (if he had time to throw)
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Pause it at the 4 second mark in the clip. They switch it, his defender isn't in phase and is facing in with, 3 yards in between.

I mean.....am I taking crazy pills?
Dude he had like 2 yards of horizontal separation which the DB could easily close while the ball was in the air. Mahomes would have to back shoulder that throw to an undersized WR for that to not get tipped or picked.
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