***** Official Chiefs vs Raiders Thread *****

[BigRedChief]

Lets get the revenge for the Christmas game last year.

Due to Miami's loss last night, if we win, we clinch a post season spot.

[St. Patty's Fire]

also i think people are vastly underestimating the effect of playing in back to back super bowls. not to mention the load managing that needs to be done. we’re trying to thread a a very small needle right now. the fact that we’re 11-1, regardless of the context, is insane. half of these guys are probably held together with glue and experimental drugs at this point

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well he missed a 5 yard slant that should've been as easy a TD as exists a drive prior.

There's not a throw in the world he's capable of hitting with any consistency right now. Not a single one.

The play call wasn't the problem. He had a good look and a throw he should hit. And he didn't. Again. If you think playing the slice of your most important player is going to get you anywhere, I just don't know what to tell you.

Oh, I agree, he was abysmal today. I thought it was the worst he’s played since Cinci

Still doesn’t make the playcall make any sense though

[Cleavage]

[IMG]

am I remembering this correctly:

first ref runs in immediately & says false start, which would kill the play, no fumble

but refs huddle for A WHILE

emerge

call an "illegal shift" instead so the penalty can be declined & KC ball

no replay of shift, TV ref analyst never shown

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) November 29, 2024

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[Red Dawg]

Defense issue is pass rush isn't there like it has been. They can't close because of it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Well we’re locked in with Mahomes until at least 2028.

Cap hits of ~$65m the next three years. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that he not be outplayed by dregs of the league like AOC.

Or Bo Nix. Or Bryce Young.

Last guy he obviously outplayed was Derek Carr.

[St. Patty's Fire]

if mahomes get outplayed by AOC in a playoff game i’ll be worried

lmk when that happens

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Are you sure? We had just gained 8 yards on the first two downs by rushing. Our power backs can get two yards in two plays.

Obviously not, but I wouldn’t have bet the game on us converting there. And I certainly wouldn’t suggest going for it on 4th down at midfield only up 2.

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

That's not an easy throw. It's a deep throw down the field. Yes, he should make that throw but I wouldn't consider it "easy"

Worthy had like 3 yards on his defender and there was no safety over the top. By NFL standards, an easier deep ball doesn’t exist.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

also i think people are vastly underestimating the effect of playing in back to back super bowls. not to mention the load managing that needs to be done. we’re trying to thread a a very small needle right now. the fact that we’re 11-1, regardless of the context, is insane. half of these guys are probably held together with glue and experimental drugs at this point

I hate to make LeBron analogies (or do I?) but he went like a decade coasting in the regular season and letting teams like the Pacers, Hawks and Raptors finish 1st in the conference. Guess what happened in the playoffs to those teams though when LeBron went full out and stopped coasting? Same thing that has happened every team the Chiefs have played in the playoffs this decade other than one very lucky Bengals team.

We know what Mahomes and the Chiefs do in the regular season, we’ve seen it for a few years for now. Fact is, for this franchise, beyond injuries, nothing that is happening right now really matters all that much in the scope of their season.

[Dawson]

I gotta give credit to the Raiders. The past couple years they have been bringing it. I don't follow them close enough to understand why they're always so bad they have been punishing Mahomes lately and Andy has to figure something out before the playoffs.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Or Bo Nix. Or Bryce Young.

Last guy he obviously outplayed was Derek Carr.

Oof. You said it, not me!

I’ll give him a pass on the Panthers game. That’s probably the best he’s looked all year.

But in recent history, yeah, he got outplayed by AOC, Nix, and Josh Allen, for sure.

And the hilarious thing is, he’s playing better this past month than he was the first couple lol

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Well we’re locked in with Mahomes until at least 2028.

Cap hits of ~$65m the next three years. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that he not be outplayed by dregs of the league like AOC.

Make the trade now and perhaps we can see if AOC can lead us to 2 more consecutive SBs and an 11-1 season. How much worse could it be really with his deep ball ability?

[Hog Rider]

Originally Posted by Cleavage

[IMG]

am I remembering this correctly:

first ref runs in immediately & says false start, which would kill the play, no fumble

but refs huddle for A WHILE

emerge

call an "illegal shift" instead so the penalty can be declined & KC ball

no replay of shift, TV ref analyst never shown

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) November 29, 2024

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There were two flags thrown. Each line judge tossed one. The discussion was probably to decide which was the proper call.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Mescalito345

Why can't some of you grasshoppers appreciate a top-three QB of all time? All nba and nfl stars have bad games.

Mahomes is a top 3 QB of all time all right and he ain’t 2 or 3

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Dawson

I gotta give credit to the Raiders. The past couple years they have been bringing it. I don't follow them close enough to understand why they're always so bad they have been punishing Mahomes lately and Andy has to figure something out before the playoffs.

The Raiders don’t bring this effort level to virtually any of their other games

[Chiefspants]

Yeah, he was prime Patrick against the Panthers outside of him missing a deep ball to Worthy (there’s a bit of a theme here) where arguably, Worthy could have made a better play back to the ball. In the end, Patrick had the ball last and made the plays to win, so I’ll take that performance all day.

If poor tackle play is hampering his ability to reliably throw deep, then I’m on team “Veach needs to do whatever it takes for an LT” this offseason.