Chris Jones and his 15+ sacks

[Balto]

Jones got his small bonus.

Week 1: 0
Week 2: 1.5
Week 3: 1.0
Week 4: 1.0
Week 5: 1.0
Week 6: 1.0
Week 7: 0
Week 8: 0
Week 9: 0
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: 2
Week 12: 0
Week 13: 0
Week 14: 0
Week 15: 0
Week 16: 1
Week 17: 1
Week 18: 1

Total: 10.5 Sacks

[Couch-Potato]

Win SB.

We have ($31m) in cap space
Sign Jones $84m / 3yrs = $28m per w/ $12m Signing Bonus = $20m Cap Hit ($11m)
Sign Sneed $68m / 4yrs = $17m per w/ $8m Signing Bonus = $11m Cap Hit ($0)
Cut MVS = ($12m)
Sign the rest of our guys to small deals.
Restructure someone.
Draft well.

Repeat SB win, again.

...Both are too good to let go.

[O.city]

Chris Jones knows he's playing his last days in a Chiefs uniform, the Chiefs know it, time for you all to figure it out.

[Balto]

I think Veach will start weighing trade interest before FA even starts. I could see a team like the Lions making this trade.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Balto

I think Veach will start weighing trade interest before FA even starts. I could see a team like the Lions making this trade.

Veach cannot trade him unless/until he is franchised and signs the tag. That could crater the entire offseason tying up 32 million of the cap. I doubt that's what happens.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by O.city

The time to have traded him, was this past offseason.

Just enjoy this last few games.

Yup. This last offseason really ****ed our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got ****ed by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his ****ed this up.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

Veach cannot trade him unless/until he is franchised and signs the tag. That could crater the entire offseason tying up 32 million of the cap. I doubt that's what happens.

I understand this. I'm saying that Veach will start talking to GMs prior to FA. Then he would plan to tag Jones and trade him the first day of the new league year and still have talks with other FAs because agents would know they have room because Jones is being traded which would open that cap space back up.

Veach doesn't have to wait till FA starts to talk trades with other GMs...

[O.city]

Why would another GM trade for an pay him when he could just wait and pay him and keep his picks?

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Yup. This last offseason really ****ed our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got ****ed by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his ****ed this up.

Are they still his agents?

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Yup. This last offseason really ****ed our chances of getting value out of Jones. A reasonable extension or a trade haul was the play. Instead we got ****ed by his agents and get nothing. Those agents of his ****ed this up.

Jeezus. Take a chill pill.

Instead we got ****ed

We have Long Dong Silver inside and outside.

As stated before ad Naseum, he's a LEADER, he makes the defense better, he allows Spags to "do things", he wrecks shit and there's a good chance he will have a F2F with Joshie Boy on Sunday night. Without him playing, you have ___________

[Balto]

Originally Posted by O.city

Why would another GM trade for an pay him when he could just wait and pay him and keep his picks?

Couldn't you say this about every tag and traded player ever? BUT it still happens because the Lions, for example, understands that a player like Jones might not pick Detroit as his last stop if a offer is equal from another team in a better location...BUT if it means signing a contract with the Lions for exactly the money he wants versus playing on the tag another year and risking injury/bad year and such he could very well sign.

A team like the Lions trade a pick or player to make this happen because they feel that Jones would not come willingly once he tests the open market.

A concept that has happened OVER AND OVER again.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by crispystl

Defense was flying all over the field and knocking the shit out of the Dolphins. I hope they can do that in Buffalo.

If they can, they'll win by a couple scores.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by O.city

Had they known they couldn't keep CJ, I would imagine they'd have kept Tyreek.

That's exactly what I meant by hindsight.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by TEX

That's exactly what I meant by hindsight.

Jones wasn't tradeable when Tyreek was, it was never an option to trade Jones

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chargem

Jones wasn't tradeable when Tyreek was, it was never an option to trade Jones

Why?

He had a couple years left on his deal....coulda done it this past offseason had you signed Tyreek.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Balto

I understand this. I'm saying that Veach will start talking to GMs prior to FA. Then he would plan to tag Jones and trade him the first day of the new league year and still have talks with other FAs because agents would know they have room because Jones is being traded which would open that cap space back up.

Veach doesn't have to wait till FA starts to talk trades with other GMs...

He does have to wait until the tag is signed to execute any trade negotiated. If Veach learned ANYTHING from this past offseason it should have been that you can't count on Jones or his agents to act in good faith.