***** OFFICIAL 2014 KANSAS FOOTBALL THREAD *****

[ArrowheadHawk]

2014 is a new year with a couple of changes. It's time for this team to turn the corner.

New OC - http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-12-0...ve-coordinator

Pretty Sweet Recruiting Video -

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Seeing that Lawrence's population has nearly doubled since 1980, I'm not buying your whole "there's something broken with Lawrence" hypothesis. Whatever is wrong with KU's enrollment is limited to KU alone, not the city around it.

I was referring to KU. I don't care about Lawrence the town.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Seeing that Lawrence's population has nearly doubled since 1980, I'm not buying your whole "there's something broken with Lawrence" hypothesis. Whatever is wrong with KU's enrollment is limited to KU alone, not the city around it.

The population grew a shit metric ton through the 90's... because so many people loved it there and stayed there after graduating KU... but still worked in KC somewhere... And a lot of people that disliked Topeka moved to West lawrence as well... The people profiting from this were the construction companies through the 90's.... that capitalized on that boom. How many of those construction companies are now out of business? My father benefited from that time, and has since had to close the doors of his local shop... The only thing that really grew in Lawrence was the Bedrooms. The city has done a piss-poor job of establishing anything of substance in businesses... Hallmark has been a stalwart, but they were there long before the population boom.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I was referring to KU. I don't care about Lawrence the town.

Ah, Gotcha.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Zeke

The population grew a shit metric ton through the 90's... because so many people loved it there and stayed there after graduating KU... but still worked in KC somewhere... And a lot of people that disliked Topeka moved to West lawrence as well... The people profiting from this were the construction companies through the 90's.... that capitalized on that boom. How many of those construction companies are now out of business? My father benefited from that time, and has since had to close the doors of his local shop... The only thing that really grew in Lawrence was the Bedrooms. The city has done a piss-poor job of establishing anything of substance in businesses... Hallmark has been a stalwart, but they were there long before the population boom.

As someone born in 1992, I could be way off here, but is it possible Lawrence's housing expansion (and subsequent stagnation) in the 90's-00's was linked to the economy at the time?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

As someone born in 1992, I could be way off here, but is it possible Lawrence's housing expansion (and subsequent stagnation) in the 90's-00's was linked to the economy at the time?

What i'm saying is the local commerce or business sector did not expand WITH the residential in lawrence. It is fully dependent upon KC... Lawrence failed to capitalize on this as a whole... obviously there were some good businessmen that did so for themselves, but the City as a whole failed.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Zeke

What i'm saying is the local commerce or business sector did not expand WITH the residential in lawrence. It is fully dependent upon KC... Lawrence failed to capitalize on this as a whole... obviously there were some good businessmen that did so for themselves, but the City as a whole failed.

Thank you for the clarification! As someone just now getting involved in projects with the city of Lawrence, it's intriguing to learn about its history.

[Prison Bitch]

Enrollment matters in football because the more students = more fans at games and more future alumni in attendance. KSU finally passed KU in undergrad enrollment this year 24,581 to 24,435. (KU was at 26,999 in 2008).
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/de...-across-state/

"In 2013 more than 45 percent of KU's Lawrence and Edwards students came from a single county: Johnson."

So to recap: the enrollment at KU was the same in 1980 as it was in 2013. Johnson County exploded in population and KU gets almost 1/2 (!) their students from there. That can imply only one thing: while we rode the growth in Johnson County, we concurrently are getting dominated across the rest of the state by KSU.

[ChiTown]

3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

Happy to have him. He sounds excited to headed this way.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Bambi

You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

Regardless of the ratings, it's a good possibility. It can certainly help sway a kids decision having another recruit committed at your position (when there's only one that plays on the entire team). That being said his statement is probably more conjecture than verifiable truth.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bambi

You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

I can't link it, but I've heard it from the horses mouth. As soon as the dual threat guy verbally commuted to ksu, Willis was a heavy ku lean.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Does anyone know they release the times for the games?

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Bambi

You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

How about his Daddy? I've known their Family for decades.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Does anyone know they release the times for the games?

I think its roughly 9 or 10 days before the game. All football games have to be TBD until then, because the Big 12 TV contracts give the networks the ability to wait until 10 days before kickoff to pick the games they want to televise, and times for the games they pick can be moved.