Herm defends run run pass punt

[Hammock Parties]

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Edwards defends conservative approach to offense

Given any other team’s offensive players, Herm Edwards might have tried harder to match Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts point for point.

Edwards is instead coaching the Chiefs, who are doing nothing consistently well when they’ve had the ball. That being the case, Edwards defended his decisions in Sunday’s 13-10 loss, saying the considerable offensive shortcomings leave him no realistic choice but to be what most fans consider ultra-conservative.

“There’s no room for error for us,” Edwards said Monday. “We have more three-and-outs than anybody in football. We have more negative plays than anybody in football. It’s hard playing that way. You put a lot of strain on the defense. So you’re trying to protect them, too. You don’t want your defense out there the whole game.

“Do I want to play that way? Heck, no. But we have to play that way. I’m trying to play the best way for the Chiefs to win the game.”

The subject obviously frustrated Edwards, who at times raised or lower his voice to make a point. He never wavered from his stance that an inability to make yards when running the ball or adequately protect the quarterback means the Chiefs are realistically squeezing every point possible from their offense.

“You have all of these great ideas that you want to use,” Edwards said. “There are a lot of things other teams are doing that we’d like to do. But we know what we are whether we like it or not. It’s been 10 weeks. You’re not going to all of a sudden evolve into something like New England. You’ve got to do what you feel you’re capable of doing.

“You know what you’re capable of doing and at the end of the day, you’re always trying to do things the players can be successful at. You can’t do things that won’t let your players be successful. You have to take some chances once in a while. I understand that. But there are (only) certain things we’re capable of doing.

“Would we like to do some different things? Sure. But you have to play to the strengths of your players. It looks like we’re conservative at times.

“We’re doing things in a way we feel we’re capable of doing them. As a staff, we’ve been with these players every day. We coach them every day. We know what they’re capable of doing. Whether everybody else believes that, it doesn’t matter. It might look conservative, but it’s a way of playing football that gives us the best opportunity to win.”

The Chiefs may have been able to squeeze more points near the end of the first half.

They took over at their 23 with 1 minute, 15 seconds and three timeouts left. The score was 3-3.

The Chiefs ran out the clock rather than try for points. Edwards ordered quarterback Brodie Croyle to hand the ball twice to Kolby Smith, once for 4 yards and the next for 5, rather than attempt a pass.

“We decided we were going to run the ball on the first play,” Edwards said. “If we got a first down, if we got 15 yards or so, then we were going to go for it. But that didn’t happen. And at that point I didn’t want to give (the Colts) momentum. They had two timeouts left. If we had taken almost no time off the clock with three incomplete passes and then we punted, we would have given the ball back to Peyton Manning with two timeouts.

“Then they get the ball back to start the third quarter. I’m not giving them two shots at me without us having even one. That makes no sense to me. I’m looking at all of that and saying, ‘Wait a minute.’ We survived the first half.

“Yeah, I was playing it conservative at that point. I guess people think we should take a chance because we were 14-point underdogs. But I’m trying to win the game. We were backed up. It was noisy. There were too many variables in that one.

“If I’m somebody else, then maybe I do it differently. But I know what I am right now.”

Against the Colts, Croyle made his first start in place of Damon Huard. Edwards made the change in part because of Croyle’s superior passing skills.

But the Chiefs declined to use those skills. His longest completion of the game was 19 yards, not counting the lateral on the game’s last play that gave him a statistical 21-yard gain.

Edwards indicated the Chiefs might try to throw more down the field in Sunday’s game against Oakland at Arrowhead Stadium.

“(The Colts) play a lot of cover 2,” Edwards said. “They’re not going to let you throw the ball down the field. They’ve only given up 10 plays of 20 yards passing. They don’t give up those plays.

“You’ll see the ball go down the field more against Oakland because they play more man to man. If we can get some one-on-one matchups we like, we’ll do it. That’s the next thing you try to do the next six weeks. This was his first game, and we had to get a feel for him emotionally and where he’s going to be. Now we can build on that.”

[Calcountry]

I have some free advice for Herm. Don't ever go into business for yourself buddy. It's too risky. You might lose money.

[Hammock Parties]

I think this is the most frustrated I've seen Herm in two seasons.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

I think this is the most frustrated I've seen Herm in two seasons.

He's just flustrated at things not coming to fluition.

[KC Dan]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

I think this is the most frustrated I've seen Herm in two seasons.

It's his own fault. That's what happens when you repeatedly do the same thing over and over expecting different results. That is Herm's problem.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

He's just flustrated at things not coming to fluition.

Did he turn chinese all of a sudden?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

Did he turn chinese all of a sudden?

I used to think it was some kind of attempt at cutesy affectation.

I'm now convinced it's just that he's a fucking idiot.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KC Dan

It's his own fault. That's what happens when you repeatedly do the same thing over and over expecting different results. That is Herm's problem.

Herm "Chaos Theory" Edwards?

[Hammock Parties]

I like how King Carl was right there with Herm today.

The Chiefs don't go into any press conferences single-handedly. They bring the whole crew! Herm, Carl, Bob Moore, probably Bob Gretz and Pete Moris, too.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Zouk

I actually think he's saying this today to confuse Oakland. I predict we see significantly more down field passing with Croyle at home. We'll see.

I predict that we will see more of the same shit, different day. Same kind of game we beat Oakland with at their house. Heck, he might be even more conservative, if that is possible, because he will think that he can count on Oakland to fug up more(turnovers), a key component to all of his game plans.

Look, he basically threw the entire team, especially the Offense, under the bus with that presser. Not once did he ever mention that he talked to Mike to make him mix it up a little on first down? Nor did you hear him take any responsibility for them not showing a scintilla of creativity in their play calling. Nope, its all on the talent of the team. None of the responsibility is in the OC, the game plan, or Head Coach.

Sorry about that. That chit doesn't wash with me anymore. If you do what you have always done, you will get what you always got. Herm ain't changing. I actually think if he had Tom Brady, Matt Light, and Randy Moss he would STILL find a way to score less than 14 points.

[Otter]

If you judge him on what his says in his press conferences and his parrot like ability to repeat himself both in his words and actions I predict we'll see no more success under Herm than we did with Gunther.

[Hammock Parties]

What's really maddening about this is that Herm seems to think everyone expects the #1 offense.

WE DON'T. WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE REALIZE THAT IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK.

The vast majority of fans would probably be satisfied with the offense as it produced last year.

[Hammock Parties]

"WE ARE NEVER WRONG"

The 2007 mantra of the Kansas City Chiefs!

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

What's really maddening about this is that Herm seems to think everyone expects the #1 offense.

WE DON'T. WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE REALIZE THAT IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK.

The vast majority of fans would probably be satisfied with the offense as it produced last year.

Im wouldn't be satisfied with that.

Heck I want a good offense, and a good defense. Im tired of this franchise always been one-dimensional and lack balance.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Zouk

I predict we see significantly more downfield passing with Croyle at home.

I'd almost guarantee it -- mainly because we're at home.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I'd almost guarantee it -- mainly because we're at home.

When that fool sees a lot of red, as in empty seats red, and the few left are booing his ass when he runs Priest off the LGaurds ass for no gain, then maybe he might throw a couple of passes. But even then, they will never be beyond the first down marker on 3rd down.