Mahomes should feel right at home after tonight.

[JDKinman]

The Chiefs looked like his old college team last year--

• No offensive line

• Play/momentum-killing penalties

• A tight end (Escobar) who couldn't catch a cold in an incubator

• No run game

• A defense that couldn't wrap up and tackle one-legged nuns playing for The Over-the-Sacred Hill Sisters of the Invalid.

The difference tonight versus his final season at Tech was that this evening, he showed discipline in doing what the coaches told him to do and not trying to freelance every play.

That TD pass he threw? Tech fans and alumni have seen that pass dozens of times. It's almost a Mahomes trademark--but it doesn't make the highlight reels because he makes it look too easy.

Stave just needs to go. He ain't it and never is going to be.

Conclusion: Mahomes got his first NFL game under his belt, stayed cool, made no major mistakes.

Mission accomplished.

JD

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

How would you judge him compared to what the other rookie QBs did with pretty much the same handicaps in terms of talent level?

Trub? Kizer? Watson? And hell, even the guy playing on the other team, Beathard?

Except they didn't have handicaps that Patrick had.

Hard for Pat to do shit when his first drive is destroyed by 15 yards of OL penalties taking his 41 yard throw off the board and his next drive being forced to go for a FG bc his RB can't get 1 yard on 2nd and 1 or 3rd and 1.

He was 7/9 with a TD and no INT's. With that pile of shit, it was a good showing.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

What i want to see next saturday is as follows:

Stave stays on the ****ing bench/holding a clipboard.

Mahomes plays with the number 2 team.

Bray cleans up whatever slop is left. That experiment is never going to come to fruition.

isaiah battle ****s himself on the sideline.

When mahomes is on the field, stop giving the rock to charcandrick west on 2nd and 3rd down. He is ****ing terrible. He killed a drive on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1.

Spiller jumps in front of west and plays more snaps.

Hunt gets more snaps.

I'm actually annoyed West got so many snaps. I know he has seniority, but this isn't a union or a frat. It's a meritocracy.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I'm actually annoyed West got so many snaps. I know he has seniority, but this isn't a union or a frat. It's a meritocracy.

I was getting shit on in other threads for saying west was shit and spiller is a better option to keep around.

I would rather have cyrus gray and darrin reaves back than go into this season with west still on the roster.

[mdchiefsfan]

People don't want to see Stave, but he is serving a purpose. He is allowing someone to take the snaps with the bubble o-line players. I doubt you guys want Mahomes doing that instead.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

People don't want to see Stave, but he is serving a purpose. He is allowing someone to take the snaps with the bubble o-line players. I doubt you guys want Mahomes doing that instead.

no i dont want mahomes doing that. I want bray doing that like he should be.

Mahomes already showed he is more ready to handle the situation than bray. Bray can eat sacks behind that shitty oline. He is big enough to take the hits.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

People don't want to see Stave, but he is serving a purpose. He is allowing someone to take the snaps with the bubble o-line players. I doubt you guys want Mahomes doing that instead.

Hey Stave had a better career than Russell Wilson at Wisconsin

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by penbrook

Hey Stave had a better career than Russell Wilson at Wisconsin

when you are in the league, no team accomplishments from college matter anymore.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

People don't want to see Stave, but he is serving a purpose. He is allowing someone to take the snaps with the bubble o-line players. I doubt you guys want Mahomes doing that instead.

You're right.

That's what Bray's for.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

no i dont want mahomes doing that. I want bray doing that like he should be.

Mahomes already showed he is more ready to handle the situation than bray. Bray can eat sacks behind that shitty oline. He is big enough to take the hits.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

You're right.

That's what Bray's for.

Whether you like it, or not, Bray is the #2, so it will currently be Mahomes or Stave. I chose Stave.

Maybe that will change, but it is how it is.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

That TD pass is a play that other QBs in the NFL don't throw because they CAN'T.

You know that's a load of bull. NFL QB's don't make that throw unless it's wide open because, more likely than not, it is an INT. A floater late and across the body at the goal-line is almost never a good idea when you're playing against a starting NFL D. If he tries that exact same throw vs the Broncos or any other decent defense, 9 times out of 10 that's an INT.

I thought Trub was easily the best out of all the rookie QBs followed by Kizer. Watson was just alright.

The kid who impressed me the most was the guy who played against us today, Beathard. Wasn't expecting him to do much, had one really bad throw that should have been intercepted, but was pretty solid otherwise. Could end up being another Cousins.

As for Mahomes, I didn't come away feeling impressed or down on him. He has a good arm but didn't show me anything I didn't expect, either positively or negatively. Honestly though, I think a large chunk of that would have to do with Reid's play calling more than anything else.

It's the Pre-season, let the QBs spread it out more instead of constantly running the freaken screen plays (yes, I realize that Reid needs to run his offense and the guys need practice setting up screens in live situations against other teams as it is a large part of Reid's offense).

It would have been nice to see both Mahomes and Bray in a 2-minute situation where the screen plays go out the window.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by penbrook

Hey Stave had a better career than Russell Wilson at Wisconsin

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Whether you like it, or not, Bray is the #2, so it will currently be Mahomes or Stave. I chose Stave.

Maybe that will change, but it is how it is.

ehh, i dont think that bray is long for that number two spot.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Except they didn't have handicaps that Patrick had.

Hard for Pat to do shit when his first drive is destroyed by 15 yards of OL penalties taking his 41 yard throw off the board and his next drive being forced to go for a FG bc his RB can't get 1 yard on 2nd and 1 or 3rd and 1.

He was 7/9 with a TD and no INT's. With that pile of shit, it was a good showing.

They're all rookie QBs playing with the 2nd/3rd team offenses. That's about as even of a playing field as you're going to get when comparing them at this point. You're acting like Pat is the only one playing with those disadvantages while everyone else has perfection surrounding them.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

They're all rookie QBs playing with the 2nd/3rd team offenses. That's about as even of a playing field as you're going to get when comparing them at this point. You're acting like Pat is the only one playing with those disadvantages while everyone else has perfection surrounding them.

Every play is it's own situation.

It's one thing when you're judging from a larger body of work, like a game or a season. We're judging on 20 snaps with a LOT of variables.

I'm looking at what he did individually with what was happening. I'm saying to you right now their scrubs outplayed our scrubs on both sides of the ball. Do you disagree?

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

They're all rookie QBs playing with the 2nd/3rd team offenses. That's about as even of a playing field as you're going to get when comparing them at this point. You're acting like Pat is the only one playing with those disadvantages while everyone else has perfection surrounding them.

big difference between playing with 2nd team players that are going to make it onto the roster, and playing with 3rd team scrubs/camp bodies.