Aurora, CO eyeing Pit Bull Ban

[vailpass]

On and on it goes, where it stops nobody knows....
Rocky Mountain News

Aurora leaders to discuss pit bulls
Ban would be similar to prohibition in Denver

By Javier Erik Olvera, Rocky Mountain News
July 6, 2005

Two months ago, Charmane Watson was at her wits' end.

She could no longer keep her dog - a 2-year-old, black and white pit bull named Nautica - after Denver's ordinance that bans the breed went into effect. The 39-year-old certified nurse's assistant decided to send her dog to live with family members in Aurora, where it wouldn't face a death sentence.

Now, Aurora leaders will begin discussing whether the city should adopt a similar ban on the breed that has developed a reputation as dangerous.

"This is nonsense," said Watson, who says the breed has gotten a bad rap and has sent letters to lawmakers trying to sway their opinions.

Aurora City Council's subcommittee on code enforcement today will be given a rundown on the city's existing law for aggressive, dangerous and vicious animals.

The subcommittee - composed of three council members - will determine whether the law is enough or whether it should propose a pit-bull ban to the full council.

At this point, Councilwoman Nadine Caldwell, a subcommittee member, supports a ban and says the breed has "a button that goes off."

"I've read too much about these dogs and know what they can do," said Caldwell, who says that Denver's ban has prompted some to move their dogs into Aurora.

Councilman Bob Fitzgerald, another subcommittee member, couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday. In earlier interviews, he said he would consider working toward a ban.

Denver's ban went into effect May 9 after the city won a contentious yearlong legal battle with the state over a law that banned municipalities from outlawing pit bulls. Last year, as Denver's court battle intensified, Aurora leaders decided to strengthen the city's animal law and to revisit the issue after a court ruling.

They decided to slap stiffer penalties - from $50 to $150 - on all pet owners who are convicted of having animals that are threats, including those that bite, lunge or snap. Additionally, a microchip would be inserted into the animal's skin so it could be monitored. The animal would be destroyed after a second offense.

Aurora's Animal Care Division didn't know Tuesday how many times the penalties have been meted out since the changes went into effect in August. The subcommittee's discussion comes three weeks after two pit-bull attacks in Thornton prompted city leaders to evaluate their own vicious animal law.

In one incident, a man suffered bites on his arms and hands as he tried to stop two pit bulls from attacking his dog, which survived.

In the other incident, Michelle Coughlin, 62, was bitten by her own dog when it was attacked by a pit bull. Her dog died from its injuries and the pit bull was euthanized.

The pit-bull owners in the cases - Alva Lacquement, 29, and a 15-year-old whose name wasn't released - were charged with animal attack violations.

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[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I know what the article says. It says "we don't know". That's a far cry from "proving" anything.

I have listed every stat I don't know what else your looking for. If you want the continued ZachKC type feminization of this country I am sure your all for BSL and probably own a cat.

No matter what legislation you pass you will never get rid of pits. If you ever owned one you would never own another dog.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

yep thats a whole shitpot of curs,culls,dunghills and shiteaters.

True enough.

[MOhillbilly]

you know what? the world was better when every small dicked wigger/****** whitetrash reerun thought his GSD was a badass dog and realdogmen could giggle to themselves cause they new that 'mongrel' chained up out back would eat a GSD for breakfast,lunch and diner.

what theyre calling a 'pitbull' now i wouldnt feed for ANY amount of money.

like everything else thats good... egos and intrests other than the dogs and the box *****ed it up.
I never owned a pitbull to make me tough and id never send a DOG to do my job.
maybe thats just me.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I have listed every stat I don't know what else your looking for. If you want the continued ZachKC type feminization of this country I am sure your all for BSL and probably own a cat.

No matter what legislation you pass you will never get rid of pits. If you ever owned one you would never own another dog.

I think you're missing my point. You said that article proves that pit bulls "bite no more than any other big breed when others were as popular as it".

That statement is false. The article does not prove it.

If you had said that it proves that there is no conclusive evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous, I'd be inclined to agree.

I'm just saying there's a big difference between "proof that bit bulls aren't more dangerous" and "no proof that pit bulls are more dangerous". you're trying to paint it as an incorrect stereotype, when we really don't know if is or not.

And as I've said before, I'm not for BSL. Most of my arguments with you on the subject have been geared towards your insistence that they are completely benevolent.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

you know what? the world was better when every small dicked wigger/****** whitetrash reerun thought his GSD was a badass dog and realdogmen could giggle to themselves cause they new that 'mongrel' chained up out back would eat a GSD for breakfast,lunch and diner.

what theyre calling a 'pitbull' now i wouldnt feed for ANY amount of money.

like everything else thats good... egos and intrests other than the dogs and the box *****ed it up.
I never owned a pitbull to make me tough and id never send a DOG to do my job.
maybe thats just me.

No that's just not you, I totally agree.

[|Zach|]

What is a GSD?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I think you're missing my point. You said that article proves that pit bulls "bite no more than any other big breed when others were as popular as it".

That statement is false. The article does not prove it.

If you had said that it proves that there is no conclusive evidence that pit bulls are more dangerous, I'd be inclined to agree.

I'm just saying there's a big difference between "proof that bit bulls aren't more dangerous" and "no proof that pit bulls are more dangerous". you're trying to paint it as an incorrect stereotype, when we really don't know if is or not.

And as I've said before, I'm not for BSL. Most of my arguments with you on the subject have been geared towards your insistence that they are completely benevolent.

Any dog can be raised to be dangerous, I agree with you on that.

My point was that now that what they are calling pits are so popular the death rate is not increasing making what much of the media is doing a witch hunt.

For the record I don't think they will be able to pass an outright ban on Pits in here. Making nuetering mandatory possibly. I still won't get mine fixed ever though. It will be unenforceable.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

its the easiest and most humain way to get the dog out of holds.

Thanks BD and MOhill. I thought a breaking stick was to unhinge a locked jaw. Seems like it's just a good way to gently pry open a (big) dog's mouth.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Thanks BD and MOhill. I thought a breaking stick was to unhinge a locked jaw. Seems like it's just a good way to gently pry open a (big) dog's mouth.

ive raised hundreds of gamebred apbts and neverever hadone i needed a key for.

[Uncle Fester]

I am gonna have to buy more bullets!

[vailpass]

"I never owned a pitbull to make me tough and id never send a DOG to do my job.
maybe thats just me."

That sums it up perfectly. For many of us the only exposure we have to any form of Pit breed is the fugstick that has one because he thinks it makes him hard. It's not hard to figure out why many feel fear/hate when they have only seen this side of the breed, not the side that BD and MOhill seem to represent.