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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-11-2025, 12:18 PM   #271
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wait why can’t we just sign Stanley or at the very least Cam Robinson? not enough cap space? we don’t necessarily need a HOFer we just need someone reliable and competent. Stanley had a really good season last year.

then we can use our top picks on RB, IOL, and DL. Maybe a corner if a good one is sitting there
Ronnie Stanley is probably getting tagged if they don't work out a deal.

Also this is again a cap vs cash question, is Clark Hunt going to be willing to dole out a massive amount of guaranteed money to sign a proven LT a long with what it will take to keep the guys they need to keep?
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Old 02-11-2025, 12:19 PM   #272
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Exactly. HUGE mistake. No hindsight needed.
What veteran TEX? You keep bitching in hindsight with zero solutions even with that benefit.
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Old 02-11-2025, 12:21 PM   #273
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What veteran TEX? You keep bitching in hindsight with zero solutions even with that benefit.
I hate these conversations, like what was your solution? What are these names?

Wanna be ridiculous, the Chiefs probably win the SB this year if they keep Orlando Brown, no one wanted to do that though. I mean we are literally at a spot where when you say sign a vet you're saying you wanted to go Donovan Smith or David Bahktieri who the rest of the league determined have nothing left...

And this isn't a shot at you ST I'm agreeing with you.
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Old 02-11-2025, 12:22 PM   #274
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I swear I started reading this sentence and thought to myself "he must be overreacting to the Senior Bowl rep like everybody else" and sure enough

He was lining up at RT, not his natural position, and it was one rep.
Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him
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Everybody needs to remember that OBJ was available for trade because Baltimore wanted THAT badly to keep Ronnie Stanley at LT. They aren't letting him just walk.
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Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Noir sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him
I will bet you that Josh Simmons goes in the top 15 picks, he was the #1 OT before injury, a team picking like 12 isn't gonna let a guy that should go top 5 pass by.
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I hate these conversations, like what was your solution? What are these names?

Wanna be ridiculous, the Chiefs probably win the SB this year if they keep Orlando Brown, no one wanted to do that though. I mean we are literally at a spot where when you say sign a vet you're saying you wanted to go Donovan Smith or David Bahktieri who the rest of the league determined have nothing left...

And this isn't a shot at you ST I'm agreeing with you.
It all comes from the need to blame. Somebody has to be held accountable! That kind of stuff makes sense a lot of the time, but not when you're a dynasty and as close to perfect as you can realistically be.

They didn't just ignore it. Humphries was that vet, and on paper, it was as good of a bet as any FA that was available in the offseason, but since it didn't work, these morons pretend they didn't do what they are bitching about when they did.
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Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him
Oh no not at all. Small trade up or take him at 31 preferably. I think he has a legit shot at LT though. He's getting beat up way too much for that rep.
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At the end of the day it's a bit of an evaluation problem. The Orlando Brown trade was fine for what it was, but I guess they didn't take into account he was going to have ridiculous contract demands.

Those contract demands have left us here because we decided "we can't pay him that" so here we are. Pretty sure when that trade was made they thought Brown would hold down LT for at least 5-7 years.
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It all comes from the need to blame. Somebody has to be held accountable! That kind of stuff makes sense a lot of the time, but not when you're a dynasty and as close to perfect as you can realistically be.

They didn't just ignore it. Humphries was that vet, and on paper, it was as good of a bet as any FA that was available in the offseason, but since it didn't work, these morons pretend they didn't do what they are bitching about when they did.
It happens every time, regardless of position or player.
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Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him
The whole point in taking Conerly is that he's a guy you wouldn't have to give up a whole bunch of picks. And he could start right away. The tape doesn't lie. You may not be impressed with his measurables but you are the guy that started this thread.

Trade whatever possible? Or not?
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It happens every time, regardless of position or player.
To further prove your point, both of those guys were part of that same WR discourse the last 2 years. They've clearly moved on.
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The whole point in taking Conerly is that he's a guy you wouldn't have to give up a whole bunch of picks. And he could start right away. The tape doesn't lie. You may not be impressed with his measurables but you are the guy that started this thread.

Trade whatever possible? Or not?
Yes but it’s about value for me and if I’m moving up it’s gonna be for Josh Simmons. I’ve watched that guy. I think he’s gonna be good.
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At the end of the day it's a bit of an evaluation problem. The Orlando Brown trade was fine for what it was, but I guess they didn't take into account he was going to have ridiculous contract demands.

Those contract demands have left us here because we decided "we can't pay him that" so here we are. Pretty sure when that trade was made they thought Brown would hold down LT for at least 5-7 years.


When you trade that much for a player, that player has leverage on you to ask for more $$$.
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Yes but it’s about value for me and if I’m moving up it’s gonna be for Josh Simmons. I’ve watched that guy. I think he’s gonna be good.
Absolutely no disagreement there. It's basically trade up for Simmons, or get Conerly Jr. or Ersery at 31 or after a small trade up.
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