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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-02-2023, 12:40 PM   #256
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I'd rather have Hopkins because of lack of SERIOUS injury. OBJ has serious injury history

Hopkins would give Mahomes a legit jump ball guy on the outside. Plus another ELITE route runner with Kelce would **** teams up.
When is the last time you saw Mahomes tossing up a ton of jump balls?
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Old 03-02-2023, 12:41 PM   #257
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I would be inclined to say no. I won't be upset if they do it, but I'd much rather keep drafting our players.
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Old 03-02-2023, 12:51 PM   #258
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Old 03-02-2023, 01:01 PM   #259
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When is the last time you saw Mahomes tossing up a ton of jump balls?
Whens the last time he had a WR that was great at it
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Meh.

I think OBJ is the better player. And we can negotiate our own contract and not have to surrender picks.

Lets say OBJ "lost a step" after his latest surgery. Then that makes him, what? DeAndre Hopkins basically.
Hopkins is going into the HOF, OBJ is not...
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Honestly, would you rather trade a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick for Hopkins, or just sign Beckham Jr. and give up no draft picks?
Hopkins, not even a contest.
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Meh.

I think OBJ is the better player. And we can negotiate our own contract and not have to surrender picks.

Lets say OBJ "lost a step" after his latest surgery. Then that makes him, what? DeAndre Hopkins basically.
The **** is this?
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The **** is this?
People can feel however they want about OBJ the person, but the dude can flat out play ball.

Yes, he is a better player than Hopkins imo. His route running is every bit as good as Hopkins, his hands are every bit as good as well. Except OBJ has a bit more juice.

If OBJ "lost a step", that'd make him at worst as fast as Hopkins. He still brings everything to the table that Hopkins does.

Ya'll loved the **** out of the JJSS signing at the time and OBJ has way more juice than JJSS ever had.

I don't know how anyone can sit up here and stroke Hopkins and then look at OBJ like, "naaaah". Like, what are you watching?
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People can feel however they want about OBJ the person, but the dude can flat out play ball.

Yes, he is a better player than Hopkins imo. His route running is every bit as good as Hopkins, his hands are every bit as good as well. Except OBJ has a bit more juice.

If OBJ "lost a step", that'd make him at worst as fast as Hopkins. He still brings everything to the table that Hopkins does.

Ya'll loved the **** out of the JJSS signing at the time and OBJ has way more juice than JJSS ever had.

I don't know how anyone can sit up here and stroke Hopkins and then look at OBJ like, "naaaah". Like, what are you watching?
OBJs yards per game the last 3 seasons before missing last season: 64.7, 45.6, and 38.4. He is done.
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OBJs yards per game the last 3 seasons before missing last season: 64.7, 45.6, and 38.4. He is done.
Imagine if the Chiefs concerned themselves with silly out of context stats like this and decided NOT to trade for KT.....

Again, watch the player. **** stats.
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Well if OBJ would ever play
A legit concern, sure. But we ain't giving up draft picks for him either.
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Imagine if the Chiefs concerned themselves with silly out of context stats like this and decided NOT to trade for KT.....

Again, watch the player. **** stats.
We are watching the player. KT still had a better yards per game average in 2021 than OBJ and it was his rookie year with Daniel Jones shitting his pants. Don't be fooled by OBJ looking good for a few plays in the Super Bowl. Dude is cooked and coming off his second devastating knee injury.
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A legit concern, sure. But we ain't giving up draft picks for him either.
But what's the point if he isn't going to play?

Anyway, Andy's only going to approve a WR that will block. I can't remember the last time I saw OBJ run-block.
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