Chiefs From a Red Raider alum: Things you may not know about Patrick Mahomes II - Page 18

JDKinman · 04-30-2017, 09:29 AM

The majority of what has been written and publicly discussed about Patrick Mahomes II has focused on his arm and his ability to make plays. As is usual, the national sports media rarely sees beyond their keyboard.

I have a vested interest in this because I consider Kansas City my second home and my adopted hometown. The three years we spent in KC were the best of our career and the good folks of Kansas City took my wife and I in and made us feel more welcome and at home than any other place we have lived. For that, we'll always be grateful and we truly love the city as if we were born and raised there.

Now to Mahomes II.

Those of us who are Texas Tech alumni and supporters see quite a bit more. In no particular importance, I want to share my observations and experiences with Mahomes from the past three years.

1. No off the field issues and probably never will be. Patrick is not just an outstanding athlete, but he is an outstanding young man. In Raiderland, we never had to hold our breath wondering what foolishness he was going to get into. He has a solid moral compass, solid values and his focus--both professionally and socially--is on being a role model fit for both young kids and old grandmothers alike. He will be excellent for the Kansas City community in the way that Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith were active, and he has the boyish personality and "boy next door" persona of Joe Montana.

This is huge for me given as how I'm a retired ad agency and brand guy, the leader of a team has to wear that not just on their sleeve, but in their heart as well. Mahomes will make Kansas Citians proud everywhere he goes.

2. He's smart. Book smart, athletic smart and career smart. This too has been overlooked by the media. During his time at Texas Tech, Mahomes was an Academic All-American. He didn't cut or skip class and have coaches cover for him. (Kliff) Kingsbury doesn't tolerate that. We've lost some good players due to their academic hijinks and/or failures.

Concern over Mahomes' ability to learn an NFL playbook? Zero. Concerns over Mahomes' ability to manage his money rather than letting it manage him and becoming a distraction to the team and city? Zero. Concerns over his hitting an intellectual ceiling so far as being a professional quarterback goes? Zero.

3. He has an uncanny ability to not just read the defense, but to read what is happening on the defense as the play develops--and exploit it. Much of what I've read by sportswriters criticizing Mahomes for a "lack of pocket discipline" has been amusing. Watching six minutes of game film highlights and then penning a story for the press does not give one anywhere near the correct perspective of what Mahomes saw and accomplished on the field.

Tech fans have seen this for three years. Mahomes will see what the defense is doing, audible or adjust the play and then make adjustments on the run. Yes, some of this will need to change in the NFL and he will need to learn when a play cannot be salvaged or saved, but see Point #2 regarding his intelligence. The bigger picture here is that the young man has not only the vision to see what a defense is adjusting or preparing for, but also has the ability to react and counter-attack during the play. In high-scoring Big 12 games, this is critical.

4. Mahomes has the best "full field vision" of any quarterback we've ever had at Tech. Period. If what they say about reincarnation is true, Patrick Mahomes was a bird-of-prey in a previous life. His eyesight and vision is other-worldly when it comes to seeing the entire field. In three years and thousands of yards of passing, we may never have any idea how many touchdowns and first downs were made because he saw the entire field and every single eligible receiver.

Broadcasters are always good at pointing out during a replay the receivers that were open that the quarterback missed. You can go back and review all three years of Mahomes playing at Tech and you won't have more than a handful of those remarks by the broadcasters. The kid has incredible field vision and--

5. He analyzes and decides like a super computer. Maybe faster. This was another thing that kept the Raider faithful enthralled on game days. Mahomes knew who his primary and secondary receivers were, but his ability to read and analyze a defense and then adjust, sometimes even on the fly as the play was unfolding, and then process what was happening and then shift who was NOW the primary and secondary receiver was mind-boggling. Even the Tech receiving corps would shake their heads at how fast he could go from one side of the field as they were covered, to finding them as soon as the defense mistakenly thought they had the play covered, and then find his next set of primary receivers and make the play to them with laser-like accuracy.

He is a zone defense's worst nightmare. Man-on-man coverage is up to the receivers, but defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to lose a lot of sleep trying to out guess and out-react Mahomes.

6. He is a freakshow of an athlete.This has been touched on, but Mahomes' athleticism goes far beyond his right arm. He's a husky, big kid who is a gym rat and fitness fanatic. He has eye to hand coordination that can fake you out on the football field or dazzle you on the baseball diamond.

7. He's humble. I doubt you'll see entourages or "crews" hanging with every move. Mahomes is self-confident and assured. He's not a Manziel that needed hero-worshippers falling all over him every step of the way. Mahomes gives credit to his coaches and receivers and teammates before he talks about anything he might have done in the game. Too much of that gets edited out by the sports writers and broadcasters, but this young man is the consummate team player and a natural leader.

In conclusion, I wanted to share these thoughts, views and experiences from the past three years of thoroughly enjoying Mahomes in a Texas Tech jersey. That he is trading Texas Tech red for Kansas City red. . . Christmas came in April and is now running non-stop for as long as this outstanding young man calls Arrowhead Stadium home.

Best regards,

--JD

Halfcan · 05-05-2017, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Everything about your post is fair and sensible...

but then, you get to the part that I separate above.

AGAIN.. you are adding negative opinion of the QB due to... " some fans that oversell him. ?

That therefore renders everything you feel about his ability.. and frankly, any opinion given.. as questionable.

Tell me... you do see this, yes?

How about you pay a shitload of money for tickets to watch the Chiefs choke in a Home Playoff game- as Alex looks off a wide open Hill all day long. Then you can judge others that are ****ing sick of Alex and his ballwashing fan club.

Sandy Vagina · 05-05-2017, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It's simple. If a person (say Tiger) comes on here and says that's Alex has to start for 2-3 years, that he isn't the primary reason for our shortcomings in recent years, that he is a top 10 NFL QB... it sparks the debate.

So, when those things are said, many on here including myself are going to fire back with reasons as to why those things aren't true. It often comes off as 'hating' Alex. That's not it. It's just a response to the ideas that Pro-Alex posters bring to the board.

so now, Alex has been the primary reason? Wow.. you are taking the daily CP steroids... well done.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-05-2017, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

so now, Alex has been the primary reason? Wow.. you are taking the daily CP steroids... well done.

Ok? And you have a better reason?

Top notch defense and special teams every year he has been here. Open your eyes.

Sandy Vagina · 05-05-2017, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

How about you pay a shitload of money for tickets to watch the Chiefs choke in a Home Playoff game- as Alex looks off a wide open Hill all day long. Then you can judge others that are ****ing sick of Alex and his ballwashing fan club.

yeah, winning tradition from a 2 win team must really suck to a bunch of inbred KC fans with nothing to enjoy aside from tooth decay, drug-addled, three eyed birth defects.

rico · 05-05-2017, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

yeah, winning tradition from a 2 win team must really suck to a bunch of inbred KC fans with nothing to enjoy aside from tooth decay, drug-addled, three eyed birth defects.

Ladies and gentlemen, a Kansas City Chiefs fan.

Sandy Vagina · 05-05-2017, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Ok? And you have a better reason?

Top notch defense and special teams every year he has been here. Open your eyes.

Are you ****ing kidding me??????

Yeah... KC has been beyond reproach, aside from the QB... wow... perfect. Just a perfect, wonderfully flawless team, except QB.

pugs... you have truly gone potato.

I would say that I hope Mahomes wrecks the team like Kaepernick did his.. but I can't... because unlike popular belief.. I want the Chiefs to excel.. despite their potato fans that deserve far less.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-05-2017, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

yeah, winning tradition from a 2 win team must really suck to a bunch of inbred KC fans with nothing to enjoy aside from tooth decay, drug-addled, three eyed birth defects.

GTFO

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-05-2017, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Are you ****ing kidding me??????

Yeah... KC has been beyond reproach, aside from the QB... wow... perfect. Just a perfect, wonderfully flawless team, except QB.

pugs... you have truly gone potato.

I would say that I hope Mahomes wrecks the team like Kaepernick did his.. but I can't... because ulike popular belief.. I want the Chiefs to excel.. despite their potato fans that deserve far less.

Kaepernick would have this Chiefs team in the playoffs. Smith has only been successful with great teams and great coaching, just like Kaepernick.

Sandy Vagina · 05-05-2017, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

GTFO

sold your soul to be greatly reveled on a forum.... so proud, your kin would be.

eDave · 05-05-2017, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Kaepernick would have this Chiefs team in the playoffs. Smith has only been successful with great teams and great coaching, just like Kaepernick.

I believe you have just jumped the shark.

**hometeam** · 05-05-2017, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

sold your soul to be greatly reveled on a forum.... so proud, your kin would be.

Pot meet kettle.

**** out of here already.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-05-2017, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

sold your soul to be greatly reveled on a forum.... so proud, your kin would be.

Sold my soul? I'm not the one stereotyping people who I don't even know, that are supposed to be from my own fan base...

I just wanted a franchise QB.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-05-2017, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave

I believe you have just jumped the shark.

Kaepernick had 16 TDs/4 INTs with the 49ers last year...

He could certainly meet the Alex standard here with Andy and KCs roster.

Sandy Vagina · 05-05-2017, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Kaepernick had 16 TDs/4 INTs with the 49ers last year...

He could certainly meet the Alex standard here with Andy and KCs roster.

You didn't see the games. Stats. Look at his second half numbers. Terrible.

See, you people don't even care about the truth. Just whatever works for your mind at the moment.

No, don't bother to consider scheme, strength of team, nah.. nothing. You really are simple people aren't you?

Miserable ****ing ungrateful people that wonder "why can'ts my team has the good?"

and the answer is simple... you deserve to suffer horrible, painful football lives.

rico · 05-05-2017, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave

I believe you have just jumped the shark.

People can say whatever they want about Kaepernick...I don't like him myself (I think he's a douche), but the guy did lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl in his 2nd season in the league...and followed that by leading them to the NFC Championship game the following year... and he's only been in the league for 6 seasons. Not to mention, the guy threw 16 TD's to 4 INT's in 2016 which is (gasp!!!) better than Alex in 2016. And he did that playing in 2 less games than Alex played in 2016.

Let's not forget, in Alex's first 6 seasons, he threw 68 TD's to 58 INT's. Kaepernick has thrown 72 TD's to 30 INT's.

Let's not pretend that the Chiefs potentially performing better with Kaepernick than Alex is some sort of huge stretch. It certainly isn't jumping the shark.

04-30-2017, 09:29 AM
JDKinman Starter Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: In an airplane hangar Casino cash: $10000400	From a Red Raider alum: Things you may not know about Patrick Mahomes II The majority of what has been written and publicly discussed about Patrick Mahomes II has focused on his arm and his ability to make plays. As is usual, the national sports media rarely sees beyond their keyboard. I have a vested interest in this because I consider Kansas City my second home and my adopted hometown. The three years we spent in KC were the best of our career and the good folks of Kansas City took my wife and I in and made us feel more welcome and at home than any other place we have lived. For that, we'll always be grateful and we truly love the city as if we were born and raised there. Now to Mahomes II. Those of us who are Texas Tech alumni and supporters see quite a bit more. In no particular importance, I want to share my observations and experiences with Mahomes from the past three years. 1. No off the field issues and probably never will be. Patrick is not just an outstanding athlete, but he is an outstanding young man. In Raiderland, we never had to hold our breath wondering what foolishness he was going to get into. He has a solid moral compass, solid values and his focus--both professionally and socially--is on being a role model fit for both young kids and old grandmothers alike. He will be excellent for the Kansas City community in the way that Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith were active, and he has the boyish personality and "boy next door" persona of Joe Montana. This is huge for me given as how I'm a retired ad agency and brand guy, the leader of a team has to wear that not just on their sleeve, but in their heart as well. Mahomes will make Kansas Citians proud everywhere he goes. 2. He's smart. Book smart, athletic smart and career smart. This too has been overlooked by the media. During his time at Texas Tech, Mahomes was an Academic All-American. He didn't cut or skip class and have coaches cover for him. (Kliff) Kingsbury doesn't tolerate that. We've lost some good players due to their academic hijinks and/or failures. Concern over Mahomes' ability to learn an NFL playbook? Zero. Concerns over Mahomes' ability to manage his money rather than letting it manage him and becoming a distraction to the team and city? Zero. Concerns over his hitting an intellectual ceiling so far as being a professional quarterback goes? Zero. 3. He has an uncanny ability to not just read the defense, but to read what is happening on the defense as the play develops--and exploit it. Much of what I've read by sportswriters criticizing Mahomes for a "lack of pocket discipline" has been amusing. Watching six minutes of game film highlights and then penning a story for the press does not give one anywhere near the correct perspective of what Mahomes saw and accomplished on the field. Tech fans have seen this for three years. Mahomes will see what the defense is doing, audible or adjust the play and then make adjustments on the run. Yes, some of this will need to change in the NFL and he will need to learn when a play cannot be salvaged or saved, but see Point #2 regarding his intelligence. The bigger picture here is that the young man has not only the vision to see what a defense is adjusting or preparing for, but also has the ability to react and counter-attack during the play. In high-scoring Big 12 games, this is critical. 4. Mahomes has the best "full field vision" of any quarterback we've ever had at Tech. Period. If what they say about reincarnation is true, Patrick Mahomes was a bird-of-prey in a previous life. His eyesight and vision is other-worldly when it comes to seeing the entire field. In three years and thousands of yards of passing, we may never have any idea how many touchdowns and first downs were made because he saw the entire field and every single eligible receiver. Broadcasters are always good at pointing out during a replay the receivers that were open that the quarterback missed. You can go back and review all three years of Mahomes playing at Tech and you won't have more than a handful of those remarks by the broadcasters. The kid has incredible field vision and-- 5. He analyzes and decides like a super computer. Maybe faster. This was another thing that kept the Raider faithful enthralled on game days. Mahomes knew who his primary and secondary receivers were, but his ability to read and analyze a defense and then adjust, sometimes even on the fly as the play was unfolding, and then process what was happening and then shift who was NOW the primary and secondary receiver was mind-boggling. Even the Tech receiving corps would shake their heads at how fast he could go from one side of the field as they were covered, to finding them as soon as the defense mistakenly thought they had the play covered, and then find his next set of primary receivers and make the play to them with laser-like accuracy. He is a zone defense's worst nightmare. Man-on-man coverage is up to the receivers, but defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to lose a lot of sleep trying to out guess and out-react Mahomes. 6. He is a freakshow of an athlete.This has been touched on, but Mahomes' athleticism goes far beyond his right arm. He's a husky, big kid who is a gym rat and fitness fanatic. He has eye to hand coordination that can fake you out on the football field or dazzle you on the baseball diamond. 7. He's humble. I doubt you'll see entourages or "crews" hanging with every move. Mahomes is self-confident and assured. He's not a Manziel that needed hero-worshippers falling all over him every step of the way. Mahomes gives credit to his coaches and receivers and teammates before he talks about anything he might have done in the game. Too much of that gets edited out by the sports writers and broadcasters, but this young man is the consummate team player and a natural leader. In conclusion, I wanted to share these thoughts, views and experiences from the past three years of thoroughly enjoying Mahomes in a Texas Tech jersey. That he is trading Texas Tech red for Kansas City red. . . Christmas came in April and is now running non-stop for as long as this outstanding young man calls Arrowhead Stadium home. Best regards, --JD
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